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Surprised that Pac would back the losing team in this one.
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ok first off, you're a moron, number one main statistic, gun control only hurts the LAW ABIDING citizens, criminals and gov will be the only people who will be carrying guns, one of which, government is the number one cause of unnatural death in this world, and you want to unarm the people to make who safe??? the people, or the criminals? or the corrupt out of control big government who doesn't care if you live or die, as long as they can collect taxes. where is our defense?????
your ****** gun argument holds no water, at all. it is known throughout history that governments disarm the people before they start their ********* regime, hitler did it, mao did it, stalin did it, mussolini did it, i can go on for days, vi lenin did it, but i guess you're down with killing innocent people all in the name of your god, government.........all of who were voted into office and touted as being the one who will " changes things for the better ", just like *****, am i saying he's going that route, no, but thats how they get into office, being media darlings first, tyrants second.....
secondly, as ****ed up as US health care is, it still is the best in the world, and yes i do agree that the insurance companies are the problem, but you think gov ran health care is the answer? which is completely ******ed and obviously you have zero common sense, zero business mind, and dont care for the people. first off do you know who creates and writes our healthcare laws? who wrote the *****care bill??? you guess it beefy ****, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEIR LOBBYISTS!!!! but you're too ****** to even look up that fact, and probably get all your facts from the mainstream media, what Fixed news? i mean fox? or communist news network cnn?, or msLSD aka msnbc??? or even better you probably are one of those politically astute guys who gets his info from john stewart or colbert, real nice guy........
so get it straight, ***** is out "bushing" bush, he's allied himself with the same people who caused ALL the problems we are dealing with, from the same people bush had in place for the war, to wall street, to insurance, to banking and economics, stemming from bush sr and clinton's administration. im' sorry if you swallowed the KoolAid and believe in hope and change, the reality is, you can "hope" all you want and there is "change" coming, just not the change you bought into believing.
the reason politicians gets good health care, is because they side with the companies, they sign the bills that the insurance companies write into effect and they get kick backs, politicians get called out on it all the time, and it's what REAL MEDIA, alternative media exposes and mainstream cover up as much as they can. if politicians weren't getting such good coverage you think they would vote in the mega corporations bills they write? you think they would side with big money or side for the people?
quit believing and buying into campaign trail rhetoric, it makes people ****** and mindless.........
i'm far from rich and don't have a elitist type mind set, i'm for the working class, the middle class, the people who make this world run. not the gov, not the elitist who only look at us as sheep and cattle, i think for myself, i study for myself, and all that i do is in the name of protecting and preserving my family, community, and country.
people like you think that you have to be down with your government to love your country and believe in the political smoke screen of right and left politics, but you fail to realize, that if there is a left wing and a right wing, then who the hell is the HEAD?????? i'll tell you, it's the banking cartel, the federal reserves system, the IMF, the world bank, london, vatican, DC..... london, vatican and DC are their own countries/states/provinces, they are not attached to the countries they're within/bordering.
if health care is soooo much better in socialist countries, then why do the rich people of those countries come to the USA for their health care? or why do they seek out privatized health care in their countries??? because government ran health care is a joke, and a terrible system. canadians, brits, australians, their rich and elites either buy privatized insurance or come to the US or both for their healthcare. thats a fact all over this topic in many other arguments about it too which can't and is not refuted.........
do you know anything about business or monopolies???? free markets???? capitalism???? because, government ran health care would be a monopoly. there would be no competition allowed, kind of like every government operation/job. like the department of motor vehicles, where its a gov job, they don't have to perform to any standard or level of quality, or any level of production. it's said that in government jobs, out of an 8 hour shift, 2 hours is spent on actual work, thats a stat, backed up by thousands of peoples daily routines recorded and averaged out in government work, which is all paid by tax payer money, so more government = more and higher taxes, real smart and soooo for the people..............
so now, the government is going to take over health care and now telling doctors how to practice medicine. i don't know about you but what qualifies a politician to tell a doctor how to handle a certain case???? and now they're telling the doctors they can only make so much, not directly, but through taxes and voting into effect insurance laws, ie higher insurance bills, because they're changing the tax laws pertaining to how much you make, so what incentive does a doctor have to help as many people as he can if he's going to lose his ass and be taxed out of business and taxed out of his profession???? a heart surgeon who would normally see 20+ people a year is now going to only see 7 people because he can not afford the taxes since they lowered the tax bracket, THANKS *****CARE........... not to mention rationing health care and not to mention all the regulations and loss of freedoms attached to the healthcare bill...........
who would want to become a doctor if you're only allowed to make 200k a year, when you have student loans that much if not more, with guess what INTEREST which takes that 200k loan and turns it into 500k PLUS!!!!!
don't believe for a second that this is for the people, it's not, it's for government dominance, more taxes, and many other things that would turn this into a 886 page response. corporate interests............. nothing else.
wake up and learn a little something, read, and think for yourself, i can chop up all this crap all day and go on til your head explodes..........
im not the one or people like me who is ruining this country, it's our career politicians and the aquiescense of the people. " to not cast a vote is to still cast a vote "
people are ****** to think that things are going to get better when we let the same politicians in office time and time again.............. vote these douche bags out of office, and if the new guy is a douche bag too, vote that scumbag out and get another one in til we get one that does stuff right. it's our right, its a real revolution that we have a chance to take part in, so vote and take part, if not, STFU and GTFOFH...........MF!Comment
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lol..
Floyd: I won't fight manny until he takes the drug test protocol that I feel are better than what the commission requires, from the drug testing agency that I choose.
Yesir: Floyd isn't dictating how the drug testing should be done.
too easy
btw, i'm not an ******* and I usually don't enjoy picking on people that are ******er than me, but yesir deserves a reality check.Last edited by DARKSEID; 10-30-2010, 04:57 PM.Comment
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well what happened here is that you made yourself look like an IDIOT. piggy backing on another dumbass' fail. so that makes your case EPIC FAIL.
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Somehow Floyd ended up in the conversation but it's a bit rediculousComment
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"""""secondly, as ****ed up as US health care is, it still is the best in the world, and yes i do agree that the insurance companies are the problem, but you think gov ran health care is the answer? which is completely ******ed and obviously you have zero common sense, zero business mind, and dont care for the people. first off do you know who creates and writes our healthcare laws? who wrote the *****care bill??? you guess it beefy ****, THE INSURANCE COMPANIES AND THEIR LOBBYISTS!!!! but you're too ****** to even look up that fact, and probably get all your facts from the mainstream media, what Fixed news? i mean fox? or communist news network cnn?, or msLSD aka msnbc??? or even better you probably are one of those politically astute guys who gets his info from john stewart or colbert, real nice guy........
so get it straight, ***** is out "bushing" bush, he's allied himself with the same people who caused ALL the problems we are dealing with, from the same people bush had in place for the war, to wall street, to insurance, to banking and economics, stemming from bush sr and clinton's administration. im' sorry if you swallowed the KoolAid
the reason politicians gets good health care, is because they side with the companies, they sign the bills that the insurance companies write into effect and they get kick backs, politicians get called out on it all the time, and it's what REAL MEDIA, alternative media exposes and mainstream cover up as much as they can. if politicians weren't getting such good coverage you think they would vote in the mega corporations bills they write? you think they would side with big money or side for the people?
quit believing and buying into campaign trail rhetoric, it makes people ****** and mindless.........
i'm far from rich and don't have a elitist type mind set, i'm for the working class, the middle class, the people who make this world run. not the gov, not the elitist who only look at us as sheep and cattle, i think for myself, i study for myself, and all that i do is in the name of protecting and preserving my family, community, and country.
people like you think that you have to be down with your government to love your country and believe in the political smoke screen of right and left politics, but you fail to realize, that if there is a left wing and a right wing, then who the hell is the HEAD?????? i'll tell you, it's the banking cartel, the federal reserves system, the IMF, the world bank, london, vatican, DC..... london, vatican and DC are their own countries/states/provinces, they are not attached to the countries they're within/bordering.
if health care is soooo much better in socialist countries, then why do the rich people of those countries come to the USA for their health care? or why do they seek out privatized health care in their countries??? because government ran health care is a joke, and a terrible system. canadians, brits, australians, their rich and elites either buy privatized insurance or come to the US or both for their healthcare. thats a fact all over this topic in many other arguments about it too which can't and is not refuted.........
do you know anything about business or monopolies???? free markets???? capitalism???? because, government ran health care would be a monopoly. there would be no competition allowed, kind of like every government operation/job. like the department of motor vehicles, where its a gov job, they don't have to perform to any standard or level of quality, or any level of production. it's said that in government jobs, out of an 8 hour shift, 2 hours is spent on actual work, thats a stat, backed up by thousands of peoples daily routines recorded and averaged out in government work, which is all paid by tax payer money, so more government = more and higher taxes, real smart and soooo for the people..............
so now, the government is going to take over health care and now telling doctors how to practice medicine. i don't know about you but what qualifies a politician to tell a doctor how to handle a certain case???? and now they're telling the doctors they can only make so much, not directly, but through taxes and voting into effect insurance laws, ie higher insurance bills, because they're changing the tax laws pertaining to how much you make, so what incentive does a doctor have to help as many people as he can if he's going to lose his ass and be taxed out of business and taxed out of his profession???? a heart surgeon who would normally see 20+ people a year is now going to only see 7 people because he can not afford the taxes since they lowered the tax bracket, THANKS *****CARE........... not to mention rationing health care and not to mention all the regulations and loss of freedoms attached to the healthcare bill..
who would want to become a doctor if you're only allowed to make 200k a year, when you have student loans that much if not more, with guess what INTEREST which takes that 200k loan and turns it into 500k PLUS!!!!!
don't believe for a second that this is for the people, it's not, it's for government dominance, more taxes, and many other things that would turn this into a 886 page response. corporate interests............. nothing else.
wake up and learn a little something, read, and think for yourself, i can chop up all this crap all day and go on til your head explodes..........
im not the one or people like me who is ruining this country, it's our career politicians and the aquiescense of the people. " to not cast a vote is to still cast a vote "
people are ****** to think that things are going to get better when we let the same politicians in office time and time again.............. vote these douche bags out of office, and if the new guy is a douche bag too, vot------"""""""
the rich do have accsess to the best healthcare , here but over 90% of people even those with insurace will not receive it, and the usa does have highly specialized medicine but for the average person, your healthcare doesnt even come close to that of a persons in a nation with socialized healthcare. canadians live longer even cubans live longer ,the average joe healthcare here sux balls!!!!
you should lay off the crack, ***** care is better than what was there, its still screwed because an insurance company is still in charge but at least it gives them some type of rules, and your dead wrong, there is no competetion now! you have companies rationing and murdering left and right now! can u imagine what wouldve happened if ***** would have made universal healthcare which by the way works better than this insurance garbage??? they wouldve revolted! **** the buisness model when it comes to healthcare it shouldnt apply. europe and canada have universal health and they have better care PERIOD and so do many more nations.they have better doctors too albeit not as greedy.both parties feed at the trough of corporate money, but republiscums feed far more, and their policies will never ever be for the middle class. and no usa health is not the best in the world, wait till u get sick and lose your house trying to pay for it, or better yet not pay for it and croak. the usa has great healthcare if u can afford it and when it comes to serious illnesses U cant afford it buddy. If your rich its much better.you should be thankful for ***** your prolly a racist wholl never admit it, but his policies will someday probably save you undeserving moronic ass. im glad that crusty old fart mcain and that ****** palin didnt get elected wed be far worse off, and drop the paranoid schizo talk about hitler types taking over if u dont have a gun. this isnt the old west pal, morons like u dont need guns and your usually the type that uses them, and never for justifiable reasons.the rich have to pay their taxes like they used to before bush gave them a 10 year free pass, period. they can afford it it wont affect them and we arent not exempt from paying ours.that whole big goverment coming to get u argument is pure crap, **********s dont like big governemnt until theyre in charge! then this poor guy ***** has to spend just to keep people from starving and to help clean up consevatives legacy of failure and crap and he gets hated for it! u cannot clean up in 2 years what was done in the last 8 ***** is 300 times a better president than bush was and im thankful hes in office. im not not happy with dems but they are 100 times better than republiscums and nothing is going to change , its the lesser of 2 evils.***** has added more jobs in 2 years than 8 yrs of bush,hes implemented rules on insurance companies so they cant drop u or deny coverage,( which btw they are fighting to undo that should tell u all) , an insurance company is out to make money its a buisness, and they win not u ,they wont pay for expensive operations they want the right to drop u so u can die and they can save the bux . and no the goverment isnt going to tell a doctor what to do that is just soooo ******! u have inurance adjusters telling your doctor what to do now! their job is to save the insurance company money! ***** care isnt great but its a million times better than having some corporation deciding if u live or die and having free reign to do what they please. government is needed to control whackos with half baked ideas like yourself, we have no interest of going back to the old west idiot.you dont know better, so go with your conspiracy delusional ,paranoid schizo view of the world and beat it, and dont vote your just tooo ******!!!!
youve bought in to the whole government is coming to get ur freedom crap tea baggers use and **********s , when really its an argument for corporations that REALLY are coming to get u and your freedom.youve been played son and u watch too much fox news.
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@ deuce dime you cant tell these fools nun bout no red pill **** man. They still on cruise control.
If one of the people that was in the military came back to my hood and guns were legal the police would be out gunned and control would be lost plus they would have better aim than the police. Watch the spook who sat by the door. Thats why there is gun control. So police can run roughshod over your neighborhood without risk of getting legally shot by citizens who had enough.Comment
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