Manny is good not great(heres why)

[Chups]

Fighter of the decade, 3 Fighter of the year, 4 lineal titles and he's only good?

Fokkaouttahur!




We thought he was great, he was even better----Larry Merchant

[Eaner0919]

This idiot probably is new to boxing. Barrera was so shot that after pac spanked his ass he went on a 6 fight win streak against Morales, Rocky Juarez 2x, robbie peden, Fana, and paulie ayala.

cmon now that's not actually a murderer's row now is it

Ayala- small guy had no business at 126 and fought scared (was there for this fight)
El Terrible- great win
Fana- crap win
Peden- crap win
Juarez I- I thought Barrera lost and I at the time was one of the bigger Barrera fans I knew (was there for this fight)
Juarez II- fought a stinker where he didn't engage (was there for this fight)

[gondixs]

im not saying manny resume sucks i said manny is not great bc he fought guys who werent in there prime...ok you wanna go with resumes i can say cotto is great then dumby..look at his champions ..cotto resume..nothing but champions on there am i gonna say cotto is great noooooooooo

[Xeraser]

TS is an idiot I think that's a given

however

I am of the theory that Barrera's absolute prime was about two years prior to the 1st Manny fight right around the Hamed fight to about the rematch with Morales

he was close to it no doubt but it still was a little past prime

This is crazy, prime should be not be used with the word ABSOLUTE. Absolute means free from imperfection. If you guys look for an absolute prime then there's no fighter like that exist. Anyways Pacquiao was not in hi prime either when he fought Barrera.

[Eaner0919]

I don't know man, I saw him looking really good right before the Pac fight. And, after the Pac maybe not as good but still top level.

IMO anyways he was in his prime for the Pac fight. But, to say he was "done" Nah.... That just insane.

I thought it was deceptive because of the opponents he faced specifically Tapia and Kelly, both of whom had seen better days and it showed

but again it was close and still a great win for a fighter no one knew let alone gave a shot to in Pacquiao

[-MAKAVELLI-]

cmon now that's not actually a murderer's row now is it

Ayala- small guy had no business at 126 and fought scared (was there for this fight)
El Terrible- great win
Fana- crap win
Peden- crap win
Juarez I- I thought Barrera lost and I at the time was one of the bigger Barrera fans I knew (was there for this fight)
Juarez II- fought a stinker where he didn't engage (was there for this fight)

so you're sayin that someone 'shot to ****' has the ability to rack up 6 wins against ranked contenders and one champion at a higher weight class?

[Vasyl’s dad]

Pacs legacy once again burns a Floyd stan.

Hes got those dudes hurting big time.

[gondixs]

you are just a manny fan so i understand that you get a little upset but the truth is the truth man. ARUM knows what his doin and matches them up nice to make it look like it was so amazing when beating a old OSCAR means nothing but to you it does. to beat a hatton that the media overhyped em means nothing. luis colazo beat hatton but judges get payed off all the time do you think they were going to give colazo that dec...berto too common man i know you are a manny fan i am a boxing fan

[Eaner0919]

This is crazy, prime should be not be used with the word ABSOLUTE. Absolute means free from imperfection. If you guys look for an absolute prime then there's no fighter like that exist. Anyways Pacquiao was not in hi prime either when he fought Barrera.

relax I never made mention of whether Manny was in his prime I am only discussing Barrera

60 fights, a few wars, and some questions as to whether Barrera carried his power to 126 is a good reason to say he wasn't quite at his prime

why do you see this as an insult to Pacquiao? I still call the win great considering no one thought Pacquiao would even be competitive

know the subject matter before you try and engage in a debate. I do, plenty. Followed Marco since his debut with Forum Boxing

[gondixs]

ok he wasnt shot def on his way out then..still not in prime