Why is 7 Days Not Good Enough??
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Give me a break. I've had blood drawn many times. At the very very worst, you have a incredibly minor sore spot that is negligible. People don't seem to have any problem boxing at the Olympics, or dead lifting incredible amounts of weight, or throwing steel balls, or steel discs, or pumping their arms in 100m sprints, or rowing for kilometers, or cross-country skiing for hours on end. You get the idea right?You have been blood-tested before right? I mean, get blood drawn out? You do know that area gets sore right? So you want a boxer to fight with a sore arm when they fight? You are an adult right? I mean, you do know this right? Or maybe you really like to just btch about Pac...it's ok if that's your agenda, just don't make up ****** ass questions.
Do cyclists get blood drawn from their legs?
You think these guys don't come out of training camps with bumps and bruises, or injuries? You think in the grand scheme of things a small site where blood was taken would make any difference at all?Comment
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I'll be waiting for Floyd's next fight. I'm assuming that OST will be a permanent fixture in all of his succeeding fights. These discussions will remain meaningless to me until we see how Floyd's next fight goes in regards to OST. IF, a big IF, Tygart's testing goes all the way up to fight day, all of *******s arguments should be considered crushed.
I have my su****ions. Tygart will NEVER go beyond 14 days cut-off because of this:
Doctor Says Drawing Random Blood Risks Pre-Bout Hematoma
-Lem Satterfield
During the failed negotiations for a potential March 13 bout against unbeaten Floyd Mayweather, seven-division champion, Manny Pacquiao claimed that he did not want to have blood randomly drawn for drug testing within 14 days of a fight.
During Thursday's Nevada State Athletic Commission hearing and teleconference that dealt with steroids and drug testing for illegal substances, the Filipino super star's assertion received some support.
Former chief ringside physician, Dr. David Watson, argued that a hematomas, infections or other injuries could develop in the arm as a result of the skin being punctured "within three weeks of a fight."
"Dr. Watson has done thousands of weigh-in physicals and done thousands of fights. He's viewed tons of medical records. What Dr. Watson was kind of saying was that on some occasions with fighters, he would notice hematomas on the inside of the elbow where they gave blood," said Keith Kizer, executive director of the NSAC.
"So Dr. Watson was concerned that you could have fighters who -- if you take blood too close to the fight -- you could run the risk of something like that developing in a fighter," said Kizer. "That could cause an effect on their performance, especially when they've had to do fights on late notice, for the infections diseases -- Hepetitus A, Hepititis B, and HIV -- and they had to give blood for that."
Kizer said that another doctor, Robert Voy, formerly of United States Olympic Committee drug testing, "brought up the fact that you can have infections."
"There was a center in Las Vegas that re-used needles for some sort of tests, and people got Hepatitis C from that situation," said Kizer (pictured below, at right). "So there's a concern that you can infect somebody and that you can infect the arm nick the vein, or jab it in the wrong place. [Dr. Watson] noticed some bruising on the arms within three weeks of the fight. The question is, can you minimize that?"
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Pacquiao's promoter, Bob Arum, CEO of Top Rank Promotions, for example, believes that he knows why USADA ended its random blood testing so far out from the May 1 fight date.
"You notice that they stopped blood testing in the Floyd Mayweather-Shane Mosley fight about 18 days before. Well, I'm not a doctor, but you have to realize that a fighter uses his arms a lot like a runner uses his legs. You can't take blood too close to the fight. Two or three weeks before the fight he can get a hematoma which can prevent him from either training or fighting," said Arum.
"If it's done further out before the fight, then there's no real problem. But closer to the fight, there's a real problem. For a fighter to lose the last week in training or the week before the fight is a disaster for a fighter," said Arum. "That could happen if he gets a hematoma in the arm that's used for the blood test. USADA, whatever, they might say, must have recognized this, and I believe that that's why they didn't test for blood before 18 days."Comment
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That was the biggest load of **** ever. You think Nevada has the greatest minds in all of sports testing, better than the collected resources of the international community?I'll be waiting for Floyd's next fight. I'm assuming that OST will be a permanent fixture in all of his succeeding fights. These discussions will remain meaningless to me until we see how Floyd's next fight goes in regards to OST. IF, a big IF, Tygart's testing goes all the way up to fight day, all of *******s arguments should be considered crushed.
I have my su****ions. Tygart will NEVER go beyond 14 days cut-off because of this:
That was a farce. Nevada scientists say their program is great. Wow, mind blowing stuff. Bring in a third party to evaluate their program and I bet it fails on many levels.
They actually suggested they were worried about testing because of reused needles. How many people get injections in a single day? All of these people are trained to use needles once and then dispose. I'm sorry, but that just isn't a valid reason.
That entire spectacle was done to cover their ass to the obviously unintelligent boxing public.Comment
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I'd rather believe physicians than schmoes.That was the biggest load of **** ever. You think Nevada has the greatest minds in all of sports testing, better than the collected resources of the international community?
That was a farce. Nevada scientists say their program is great. Wow, mind blowing stuff. Bring in a third party to evaluate their program and I bet it fails on many levels.
They actually suggested they were worried about testing because of reused needles. How many people get injections in a single day? All of these people are trained to use needles once and then dispose. I'm sorry, but that just isn't a valid reason.
That entire spectacle was done to cover their ass to the obviously unintelligent boxing public.Comment
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