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  • maguirre
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    #421
    Originally posted by IMDAZED
    LOL @ this f*g hurt that people are bringing up the one fact they want buried.
    So now this thread is moving along nicely. Hope no more complaints from this guy saying this thread is being intentionally buried.

    We'll make a complete list of the answers in a more readable and concise form. We can't list everything in there. Some answers are quite long. Important points should be easy to list.

    In time, this thread will be bump-worthy.

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    • deejd
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      #422
      Originally posted by Red_Menace
      Floyd might be using the drug testing as a way to duck Pac. I don't know, and I don't really care.
      How did Mayweather guess that Pacquiao and his team would run scared when they heard "random testing." How do you guess that??

      If that's the case, an admitted steroid user who's last win came by knockout against an iron chinned welterweight who had never been knocked out (or down for that matter) agreed to random testing. You would think since that happened, Mayweather would have "chickened out" right?

      Using testing to "duck" is the most unreasonable assumption anybody can make. These guys aren't afraid to fight each other. One is afraid of watching the reputation they built crumble if speculation proves true, the other is afraid to watch their reputation crumble at the hands of what could be a dirty fighter.

      Ask Cotto how it feels.
      Last edited by deejd; 10-27-2010, 02:56 PM.

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      • Mayabang
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        #423
        Originally posted by Red_Menace
        If you're going to allow testing up to the final week, why bother cutting off the testing at all?

        Provide me with one good reason not to allow testing up to the day of the fight? There are none. How many thousands of athletes undergo this type of testing to participate in international sport? Cycling is maybe the ultimate endurance sport, and those guys undergo severe testing.
        You have been blood-tested before right? I mean, get blood drawn out? You do know that area gets sore right? So you want a boxer to fight with a sore arm when they fight? You are an adult right? I mean, you do know this right? Or maybe you really like to just btch about Pac...it's ok if that's your agenda, just don't make up ****** ass questions.

        Do cyclists get blood drawn from their legs?

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        • Horvo
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          #424
          Floyd doesn't want the fight if he doesn't want a seven day cut off. Roger himself said no one is going to give blood less than a week before the fight.

          It is obvious that PBF has no grasp of how PEDs work from the SSM fight. There were 54 days between when the contract was signed and when the "random" tests started. That is when someone would stack HGH and Roids to try to build mass, not three days before the fight. Any testing that waits for two months before it begins is a joke.

          Pac didn't agree to the tests at first because he didn't want to grab his ankles for Floyd. It was a pissing contest and neither side wanted to look weak, but Manny's excuses were all BS. Now Pac realizes he looked bad by refusing so he is willing to take the tests, especially after seeing how it worked with Shane.

          PBF has no interest in cleaning up the sport since he doesn't require testing for fighters in his own stable, or their opponents, because of the cost. He is just trying to get inside Manny's head, or avoid the fight. Time will tell.

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          • BuckToothed
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            #425
            Originally posted by Red_Menace
            If you're going to allow testing up to the final week, why bother cutting off the testing at all?

            Provide me with one good reason not to allow testing up to the day of the fight? There are none. How many thousands of athletes undergo this type of testing to participate in international sport? Cycling is maybe the ultimate endurance sport, and those guys undergo severe testing.
            Actually, it's you that needs to provide a proof why a 7 days black out period won't do, since this is how it is with today's boxing.

            You can't compare cycling with boxing, cyclist are not getting their head bashed in purposely.

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            • IMDAZED
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              #426
              Originally posted by Horvo
              Floyd doesn't want the fight if he doesn't want a seven day cut off. Roger himself said no one is going to give blood less than a week before the fight.

              It is obvious that PBF has no grasp of how PEDs work from the SSM fight. There were 54 days between when the contract was signed and when the "random" tests started. That is when someone would stack HGH and Roids to try to build mass, not three days before the fight. Any testing that waits for two months before it begins is a joke.

              Pac didn't agree to the tests at first because he didn't want to grab his ankles for Floyd. It was a pissing contest and neither side wanted to look weak, but Manny's excuses were all BS. Now Pac realizes he looked bad by refusing so he is willing to take the tests, especially after seeing how it worked with Shane.

              PBF has no interest in cleaning up the sport since he doesn't require testing for fighters in his own stable, or their opponents, because of the cost. He is just trying to get inside Manny's head, or avoid the fight. Time will tell.
              What kind of dumb **** is this? That's only if he's using something like HGH which, at this point, I doubt he needs. LOl @ you making such a blanket statement. STFU.

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              • letsgobrady
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                #427
                Originally posted by Horvo
                Floyd doesn't want the fight if he doesn't want a seven day cut off. Roger himself said no one is going to give blood less than a week before the fight.

                It is obvious that PBF has no grasp of how PEDs work from the SSM fight. There were 54 days between when the contract was signed and when the "random" tests started. That is when someone would stack HGH and Roids to try to build mass, not three days before the fight. Any testing that waits for two months before it begins is a joke.

                Pac didn't agree to the tests at first because he didn't want to grab his ankles for Floyd. It was a pissing contest and neither side wanted to look weak, but Manny's excuses were all BS. Now Pac realizes he looked bad by refusing so he is willing to take the tests, especially after seeing how it worked with Shane.

                PBF has no interest in cleaning up the sport since he doesn't require testing for fighters in his own stable, or their opponents, because of the cost. He is just trying to get inside Manny's head, or avoid the fight. Time will tell.
                cut off date means it is not random and manny and his team are the dumb ones they need to tell many to except the full random blood testin because even with the random testin he will not be tested 2 days before the fight like he was 1st cryin about

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                • Red_Menace
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                  #428
                  Originally posted by BuckToothed
                  Actually, it's you that needs to provide a proof why a 7 days black out period won't do, since this is how it is with today's boxing.

                  You can't compare cycling with boxing, cyclist are not getting their head bashed in purposely.
                  Boxing standards are lax. The best testing program in the world, created, monitored, updated and implemented by the best scientists and the international community is the program used by the Olympics and other international sport. That's what Floyd asked for, and part of that program is having random testing with no cutoff. Pac said no. That decision rests on Pacs shoulders. I'm going to trust the experts, and they're the ones that designed the program. People are saying, "WHo does Mayweather think he is to say what testing should be done?" Well, who does Pac think he is to say the best testing program in the world is unnecessary?

                  7 day cutoff is not acceptable. Boxing should be testing to the highest standards, but there are financial driven motives that are preventing it.

                  Oh, and I'm not comparing boxing to cycling, but the spirit of safety and fair play should be the same, regardless of the sport. But if I were to compare them, I'd say boxing is a lot more dangerous, so all the more reason to do the testing, right?

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                  • deejd
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                    #429
                    Originally posted by Mayabang
                    You have been blood-tested before right? I mean, get blood drawn out? You do know that area gets sore right? So you want a boxer to fight with a sore arm when they fight? You are an adult right? I mean, you do know this right? Or maybe you really like to just btch about Pac...it's ok if that's your agenda, just don't make up ****** ass questions.

                    Do cyclists get blood drawn from their legs?
                    So are you suggesting that boxers give blood from their legs? Because the legs aren't a crucial part in boxing, I mean, it's not like most of the power in a punch doesn't come from the legs.


                    Mayweather and Mosley went through random testing, so it's been done before. Nobody heard Mosley making excuses and blaming his loss on the testing. Fighters have won bouts with body parts they've broken or fractured and muscles they've torn or strained. Fighters have gone into fights they didn't feel 100% going into, won, and post-fight, expressed how they didn't feel good.

                    Keep defending the lies though, shows loaylty and real character.

                    "EPO is a hormone that controls red blood cell production. It acts as a doping product in basically the same way that blood doping works. Gives a higher percentage of red blood cells in the blood stream. Red blood cells transport oxygen to tissues. AFAIK, too high of a red blood cell concentration"

                    -http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/effect-of-epo-on-performance-who.html
                    Last edited by deejd; 10-27-2010, 03:08 PM.

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                    • FerdinandMarcos
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                      #430
                      Originally posted by Red_Menace
                      Boxing standards are lax. The best testing program in the world, created, monitored, updated and implemented by the best scientists and the international community is the program used by the Olympics and other international sport. That's what Floyd asked for, and part of that program is having random testing with no cutoff. Pac said no. That decision rests on Pacs shoulders. I'm going to trust the experts, and they're the ones that designed the program. People are saying, "WHo does Mayweather think he is to say what testing should be done?" Well, who does Pac think he is to say the best testing program in the world is unnecessary?

                      7 day cutoff is not acceptable. Boxing should be testing to the highest standards, but there are financial driven motives that are preventing it.

                      Oh, and I'm not comparing boxing to cycling, but the spirit of safety and fair play should be the same, regardless of the sport. But if I were to compare them, I'd say boxing is a lot more dangerous, so all the more reason to do the testing, right?
                      This right here........

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