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  • Red_Menace
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    #441
    Originally posted by Cgarcia
    I'd rather believe physicians than schmoes.
    Which schmoes? WADA? It's their program, not mine. If they feel it's ok to do random testing without cutoffs, who am I to argue?

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    • maguirre
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      #442
      Originally posted by Red_Menace
      Which schmoes? WADA? It's their program, not mine. If they feel it's ok to do random testing without cutoffs, who am I to argue?
      No need to argue. Seven days is not good enough for you. That's fine. No one is being forced to change their minds here. I don't think anybody can. No need to repeat the same thing.

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      • deejd
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        #443
        Originally posted by Cgarcia
        I'll be waiting for Floyd's next fight. I'm assuming that OST will be a permanent fixture in all of his succeeding fights. These discussions will remain meaningless to me until we see how Floyd's next fight goes in regards to OST. IF, a big IF, Tygart's testing goes all the way up to fight day, all of *******s arguments should be considered crushed.

        I have my su****ions. Tygart will NEVER go beyond 14 days cut-off because of this:
        Sheer ignorance.

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        • deejd
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          #444
          Originally posted by Cgarcia
          No need to argue. Seven days is not good enough for you. That's fine. No one is being forced to change their minds here. I don't think anybody can. No need to repeat the same thing.
          So you'd rather have an appointed medical advisory board, let me emphasize advisory, that hasn't changed it's testing procedure since it's start, handle random testing instead of some "schmoes" who specialize solely in anti-doping on a global level? Let me just make sure I'm getting this clear.

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          • maguirre
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            #445
            Originally posted by davis828
            So you'd rather have an appointed medical advisory board, let me emphasize advisory, that hasn't change it's testing since it's start handle random testing instead of some schmoes who specialize solely in anti-doping on a global level? Let me just make sure I'm getting this clear.
            You've made your point: Seven days is not good enough for you. That's fine.

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            • maguirre
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              #446
              Originally posted by davis828
              Sheer ignorance.
              You don't wanna see Floyd getting tested on the day of the fight? Yes, if that happens, all of *******s arguments would be considered crushed. You should be looking forward to that. You'd be happy winning in this arguments instead of seeing the mega fight!

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              • Mayabang
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                #447
                Originally posted by FerdinandMarcos


                This is some dunb-ass ***** right here.
                dumb because? oh wait, coz I gave a reason which he asked for. You ****** ass pretending to be a Filipino with that name, are you Gino Ross' alt or somethng?

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                • Mayabang
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                  #448
                  Originally posted by Red_Menace
                  Give me a break. I've had blood drawn many times. At the very very worst, you have a incredibly minor sore spot that is negligible. People don't seem to have any problem boxing at the Olympics, or dead lifting incredible amounts of weight, or throwing steel balls, or steel discs, or pumping their arms in 100m sprints, or rowing for kilometers, or cross-country skiing for hours on end. You get the idea right?

                  You think these guys don't come out of training camps with bumps and bruises, or injuries? You think in the grand scheme of things a small site where blood was taken would make any difference at all?
                  Training is part of boxing...getting needle in your arm the day of the fight IS NOT. If that was the norm then I wouldn't be saying ****. And I specifically was talking about getting drawn blood the 'day' of the fight. He asked for one reason, I gave it. And if you gonna start comparing Olympians to Manny and FLoyd, then True OST should be practiced. Otherwise it's all BS demand.

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                  • ALG United
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                    #449
                    Originally posted by davis828
                    So are you suggesting that boxers give blood from their legs? Because the legs aren't a crucial part in boxing, I mean, it's not like most of the power in a punch doesn't come from the legs.


                    Mayweather and Mosley went through random testing, so it's been done before. Nobody heard Mosley making excuses and blaming his loss on the testing. Fighters have won bouts with body parts they've broken or fractured and muscles they've torn or strained. Fighters have gone into fights they didn't feel 100% going into, won, and post-fight, expressed how they didn't feel good.

                    Keep defending the lies though, shows loaylty and real character.

                    "EPO is a hormone that controls red blood cell production. It acts as a doping product in basically the same way that blood doping works. Gives a higher percentage of red blood cells in the blood stream. Red blood cells transport oxygen to tissues. AFAIK, too high of a red blood cell concentration"

                    -http://www.sportsscientists.com/2007/11/effect-of-epo-on-performance-who.html
                    The Floyd/Mosley random test ended in 18 days, yes it was contracted for full random but USADA ended it in 18, and there was health reason on why they ended it in 18. A ***** here posted that they could have ended the Floyd/Mosley test even 7 days later than 18 if the USADA wanted to but still that's 11 days prior to the fight. So now i'm asking, what's wrong with 7 days?? Now your bringing up EPO as a possible drug use, EPO works best with supplemental steroids which will make it harder to wash down. Now for arguement's sake let's say they found a way to wash down the drug in a day, do you really think that it will help Manny in any way during the cool down period of training where in their tapering off with everything?!! WTF!! And you said that EPO helps you with your oxygen retention and thus gives you added boost in endurance, BUT IF YOU WASHED IT OFF HOURS BEFORE THE FIGHT, THEN WHAT'S IT'S USE THEN DURING THE FIGHT??!!! THINK ABOUT IT KID...

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                    • IMDAZED
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                      #450
                      Originally posted by ALG United
                      The Floyd/Mosley random test ended in 18 days, yes it was contracted for full random but USADA ended it in 18, and there was health reason on why they ended it in 18. A ***** here posted that they could have ended the Floyd/Mosley test even 7 days later than 18 if the USADA wanted to but still that's 11 days prior to the fight. So now i'm asking, what's wrong with 7 days?? Now your bringing up EPO as a possible drug use, EPO works best with supplemental steroids which will make it harder to wash down. Now for arguement's sake let's say they found a way to wash down the drug in a day, do you really think that it will help Manny in any way during the cool down period of training where in their tapering off with everything?!! WTF!! And you said that EPO helps you with your oxygen retention and thus gives you added boost in endurance, BUT IF YOU WASHED IT OFF HOURS BEFORE THE FIGHT, THEN WHAT'S IT'S USE THEN DURING THE FIGHT??!!! THINK ABOUT IT KID...
                      When did they say this? Or did you just make it up? Pathetic. All to save your hero.

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