Why is 7 Days Not Good Enough??

[Ray*]

Songbird


To be honest both fighters have the rights to stick to their guns, And I don't blame them because they are the ones get punch not me or you.

But don't lie to the fans like we are all ******, Am not ****** and am sure some reasonable fans would agree with me that Pacqauio is not obligate to accept Mayweather's demand of OST all the way up but then Pacquiao doesn't need to lie either that he accept OST all the way up to the fight.... That's my whole point.

Not 7 days not 14 days but why the need to lie that you accept? Can one single Pacquiao sensible or reasonable fan come out and acknowledge that single point without thinking they are betraying him?

[MUNG]

Songbird


To be honest both fighters have the rights to stick to their guns, And I don't blame them because they are the ones get punch not me or you.

But don't lie to the fans like we are all ******, Am not ****** and am sure some reasonable fans would agree with me that Pacqauio is not obligate to accept Mayweather's demand of OST all the way up but then Pacquiao doesn't need to lie either that he accept OST all the way up to the fight.... That's my whole point.

Not 7 days not 14 days but why the need to lie that you accept? Can one single Pacquiao sensible or reasonable fan come out and acknowledge that single point without thinking they are betraying him?

Im not up to date on who said what at the moment but if pac is backtracking then he should be asked why. Did someone ask him the questions directly, like did you accept full tests all the way up to the fight and did he reply YES, it sounds strange that he would do something and then reverse it

[SCEN3RY]

It would take a lot of guts for an athlete to use in those last 7 days considering all the media scrutiny this fight has received.

It's all for show anyway, if they were serious about getting rid of PEDs then they would have year round OST. If you don't test in the off season it's useless.

For all we know Floyd used PEDs this past winter and in the time off he took from the sport the previous years. He looks slightly more muscular, I mean it could just be that he got older but hey, why not throw out some baseless accusations? It's more fun that way.

^^^This, plus your training is tapering off by then, fighters don't start training intensely during the last week.

[Reloaded]

The reason Ray is in the timing ,,, they said they agreed to make out it was Floyd saying no so they could justify fighting Margo and the public would swallow it, they tried to make themselves look good and Floyd bad ,,, if they had of said the truth they would have been pressured to agree to no cut off to make the fight ,,,, the reason they lied was to save face and try and blame Floyd at the same time sign Margo which was the intention all along because the timeline also reveals Margo was promised the fight before any Arums so called second round of talks took place , that tells the story of what was in Arums cookbook all along , and it hasnt been Floyd , Arum wants to milk Pac for all he can before floyd can kill his cash cow .

The chronological time line going from when Arum first mentioned Clottey exposes team Pac as sceamers and liars .

[Canelo Phresh]

not even arguing about that. team pac blatantly lied about agreeing to full accurate random blood testing when they did not at all. thats the only point.

[Ray*]

Im not up to date on who said what at the moment but if pac is backtracking then he should be asked why. Did someone ask him the questions directly, like did you accept full tests all the way up to the fight and did he reply YES, it sounds strange that he would do something and then reverse it

Well that's exactly what happen! They interviewed him after he signed the Margarito fight, and one of the reasons he gave for fighting Margarito was because Mayweather didn't want to fight even though he HAD agreed to all the test demanded by Mayweather.

At this point I was one of the people calling Mayweather a duck for going on "Vacation" along with 99.9% of Pac fans on this board.

Now that Knonz claimed they only went back with 7 days I felt like an idiot for believing Pac and he has indeed lie again.. Which makes me wonder why he need to lie for.

He doesn't need to agree to anything but he also doesn't need to sit there and lie to everyone. Am off anyway

[KnockUTheFukOut]

both sides are full of **** to be honest

it is easy to manipulate Manny fans because many of his fans Borderline WORSHIP the guy, so Arum uses that to his full advantage and he know with them, anything he says is "GOLDEN"

but he also knows on the other side it is easy to turn the fans and the media against Mayweather since most of them hate the guy anyway

so you really can't believe what is coming for either camp because you could actually go back and find a ton of contradiction from both camps

then the fans on both sides are the ***in WORSE, many of you just make up **** and will post and say anything to make you favorite fighter look good and SADLY the Media has taken sides, rarely do a see a Article about Mayweather vs Pacquiao in which the writer does actually take a side, most of the articles and see are usually ANTI Mayweather and Pro Pacquiao, what ever happen to the rights that don't take sides but instead makes arguments for BOTH SIDES and try to get the fans to understand BOTH SIDES of the argument

now all you see is Childish, Unprofessional articles from WANNABE boxing writers/"experts"

[deejd]

Roger is the one that said you have to have a cut off date a week out because someone is not going to give blood right before the fight and then again right after. He's the one that said a 7 day cut off was fine. And they were never going to take blood from PBF or SSM a couple days before the fight.

Also, the latest word from Floyd was that Manny is going to agree to the tests. Why would he say that if Pac hasn't agreed to his demands? He's never said that before.

I think the debate before was whether there would be a cut off date and if the the fighters would be given notice of when the blood tests would take place. Apparently Pac has agreed to random blood tests up to 7 days before the fight. I don't think Roger, Floyd, or anyone else in their camp expected more than that. That's why they haven't been saying that's what stopped the fight this time.

The stipulation was made clear right after the scores were announced in the Mayweather-Mosley fight;

"If Pacquiao doesn't agree to random testing (no cutoff), then there's no fight" -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Brick walls, everywhere.

[Reloaded]

The stipulation was made clear right after the scores were announced in the Mayweather-Mosley fight;

"If Pacquiao doesn't agree to random testing (no cutoff), then there's no fight" -Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Brick walls, everywhere.

Thats not a brick wall its a simple step , Pac should have just said yeah no problems , instead he tells the public he agreed when he didnt , and the signing of Margo was the reason he lied , thats very manipulative when you really look at it ,, the brick wall is Pac and not wanting a full PEDS test .

[deejd]

Im not sure if thats a good attitude to have. Floyd sets out a postion, i think (if this is all true btw) and i dont think that position should be set in stone, this is a very important fight and this is how these things get made. At the end of the day no matter how you dress it up, the 7 day cut off sounds pretty fair for both sides and if a seemingly fair offer is on the table then questions will be asked if the fight doesnt get made. If 7 days break this fight it will be a scandal. IMO if floyd wants the fight he can agree to 7 days, agree to 7 days and beat the guy, why not? Doesnt make sense to me not to

If on the other hand floyd thinks that pac can "use" some substance in the few days running up to a fight, avoid detection in blood tests and post fight blood tests, then come out and say it or get some experts on his side to back this theory up

It that wont work id like to see pac call floyd on this and agree to full testing all the way to the fight, just do it pac if floyd wont budge, i think pac will be more likely to budge now he saw the same conditions enforced for mosley

You say its fair, but the topic at hand is Team Pacquiao went to various media outlets including major syndicates such as ESPN, USA Today, and Yahoo sports stating that they agreed to Mayweather's testing stipulation and then on HBO this past Saturday, Pacquiao's own adviser went on record stating that they didn't agree to Mayweather's terms.

Whether its fair or not is irrelevant. Mayweather made the concessions that Pacquiao wanted from the jump: Mayweather has compromised. Now for Mayweather to make one concession, that he even tried compromising on before, to be rejected and even lied about, is bad business savvy.