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  • deejd
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    #221
    Originally posted by BuckToothed
    Which is fine, I have no issues with that line of thought.
    So now that it's 7 days, do you think it's still fair?

    It seems to me that people thought that it was fair, since it was Floyd that proposed it.
    Now that Manny is proposing half of what Floyd proposed, then it's not fair all of the sudden.
    That's not what was proposed. It seems a few Pac fans have selective hearing. During the in-ring post-fight interview after Mayweather beat Mosley, Mayweather stated that Pacquiao goes through the same testing the he himself and Mosley subjected themselves to.

    For those who are still stuck in January, the new term is random testing the whole way through.

    For those that still don't understand, from May the 2nd of the year 2010 and on, there is no cutoff date in random drug testing.

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    • ALG United
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      #222
      Originally posted by swizz
      epo leaves yous system in 3 to 4 days
      But for EPO to take effect, you should be taking it with supplemental steroids even before the training season started, which means in boxing sense, around 3 months prior to fight night!! So what will you get from Epo if you just taking it during that 7 days window and those 7 days will take place during the tapering period of training, so WTF will that do??!!!

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        #223
        Originally posted by davis828
        That's not what was proposed. It seems a few Pac fans have selective hearing. During the in-ring post-fight interview after Mayweather beat Mosley, Mayweather stated that Pacquiao goes through the same testing the he himself and Mosley subjected themselves to.

        For those who are still stuck in January, the new term is random testing the whole way through.

        For those that still don't understand, from May the 2nd of the year 2010 and on, there is no cutoff date in random drug testing.
        so ith Floyd wanting to have it his way or no fight, im asking you, is he trying to make this fight an easier negotiation or a harder one. Pac has come down 80% from his original offer and Floyd has done nothing but made it harder to agree terms.

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        • ALG United
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          #224
          Originally posted by davis828
          That's not what was proposed. It seems a few Pac fans have selective hearing. During the in-ring post-fight interview after Mayweather beat Mosley, Mayweather stated that Pacquiao goes through the same testing the he himself and Mosley subjected themselves to.

          For those who are still stuck in January, the new term is random testing the whole way through.

          For those that still don't understand, from May the 2nd of the year 2010 and on, there is no cutoff date in random drug testing.
          Compromises are part of negotiation, be it at first, second, third or even tenth, these are elite money fights that will garner hundreds of millions of dollars. Floyd is not fighting a bum that he will be able to dictate and instill terms according to his likings, he cannot say go fight me blindfolded with hands tied behind your back and Manny will do it.
          He is asking Manny, an opponent he considered one-dimensional, come face forward, little asian midget to take full random OST, that is already a stretch for Manny, now with a compromise of 7 negligible days on a cool down period prior to the fight, i think that is just right!!! It's an easy fight for Floyd anyway...

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            #225
            Originally posted by ALG United
            What don't you understand about negotiation, negotiation is acquiring leverage!!! So as long as it's not yet written in stone and signed by both parties!! Negotiations will still go on and on, now you are asking why didn't Manny just agree to 0 days instead of 7??!! Then i ask you, why didn't Floyd just agree to the 7days compromise, it's negligible anyway, it will do them more harm than good coz those 7 days will fall on the time that the fighters are tapering off with their training.. WHY WILL THE GREAT FLOYD MAYWEATHER RISK BEING CALLED A COWARD, A DUCKER BY MILLIONS OF FANS AND EXPERTS ALIKE, ALL BECAUSE OF THAT 7 DAYS!!! Most of the *****s said that Manny is a one-dimensional, come forward brawler midget, and it's gonna be an easy fight for Floyd. But Floyd doesn't want to fight Manny unless he gets tested fully, and now even with just 7 days window, Floyd doesn't wan't to fight an easy fight!!! WTF??!!!
            Ok, you're a world class idiot.

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              #226
              Originally posted by fcastro1
              so ith Floyd wanting to have it his way or no fight, im asking you, is he trying to make this fight an easier negotiation or a harder one. Pac has come down 80% from his original offer and Floyd has done nothing but made it harder to agree terms.
              Harder? He gave in 50% the first time around with a 14 day cut off and Pac's team wouldn't budge.

              Pac's team didn't want to fight Mayweather at '54 or use 10 oz gloves, Mayweather gave way to that concession right away. Not to mention the weight penalty.

              Now, Pacquiao, who wouldn't fight Cotto at '47 and made him put his belt on the line at '45.... is going up to fight at '50. Why couldn't Pacuiao give to fighting Cotto at '47 a year ago?

              Mayweather fought the guy that Pacquiao didn't want to fight at '47... or even '40 for that matter when offered [via Mosley]. Not only did Mayweather fight Mosley, he beat the guy impressively.

              Apparently, there's nothing hard about random testing, it's been done before. If Manny is clean and his blood work shows no signs of using, he may not get tested further than seven days out. Testing is supposed to keep you on your toes and create honest results.

              I understand your question, but I don't think Mayweather is being a **** in negotiations considering the concessions he made for Pacquiao and in the timely manner he did so.

              Just like Pacquioa clowned Margarito "oh what, you think we are dumb, you know what you were doing." Mayweather could say the same thing about his camp and their reactions to testing.

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                #227
                Originally posted by odogg8121
                I think your getting off on trying to protect Manny the liar lol hey man listen you cant change my opinion, ok. Floyd tried to meet Manny in the middle with the 14 day cut off. Once Manny passed Floyd said next time there will be no cut off, the fact that Manny lied to the fans about agreeing means nothing to you, but you want to know why Floyd wont go back on his word lol...man i agree to disagreeing with you
                Do you really think that Floyd can get away with that arrogant demands?!! This is not a bum he's talking to, he cannot demand something final without meeting any repercussions at the other end!!! It's like if Floyd says, "i'll fight you Manny but only if you wear no shoes at fight night", then Manny will say, "i will fight you Floyd but can i atleast wear some sandals that nike will provide for me". They are still in the middle of negotiation, Floyd asked for 0 days, Manny asked for the middle 7 days. Now my take is 7 days is clearly realistic enough and logical since that window will happen in the latter part of training wherein the fighters are tapering off already. So my question is, why will Floyd reject the 7 days window considering he views Manny as no threat, a one-dimensional come face forward brawler midget that he will dispose of at the sound of the first bell!!! So now why is 7 days still is too unreasonable to Floyd?!!! WTF??!!

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                  #228
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED
                  Ok, you're a world class idiot.
                  No words to say huh??!!!

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                  • IMDAZED
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                    #229
                    Originally posted by ALG United
                    No words to say huh??!!!
                    I think what I said sums everything up best. That rant was so pathetic...I mean, seriously.

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                    • maguirre
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                      #230
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      so ith Floyd wanting to have it his way or no fight, im asking you, is he trying to make this fight an easier negotiation or a harder one. Pac has come down 80% from his original offer and Floyd has done nothing but made it harder to agree terms.
                      It's embarrassing. These debates that seem to give *****s some sense of pride should be regarded as for entertainment purpose only if you're a *******. The fight will never happen, anyway.

                      I'm here to make fun of *****s.

                      This is what a normal person feels about the whole thing.

                      Tell me if this is what a ***** would say after listening.

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