Why is 7 Days Not Good Enough??

[p4p-champ]

"Creams, transdurmals, clear the fastest. Orals, would be next. Water-based drugs- including testosterone- would be next, then the oil-based. So some of these can clear in a matter of hours and days," explained Conte. "So if you know when you're going to be tested a week out, you go off the use of oral testosterone, for example, you're going to test negative. So that is really an issue."


- Victor Conte


the kingpin of PEDs. But hey, we wouldn't want to risk Manny's arm getting bruised or have him dehydrated from a piss test.

[deejd]

Compromises are part of negotiation, be it at first, second, third or even tenth, these are elite money fights that will garner hundreds of millions of dollars. Floyd is not fighting a bum that he will be able to dictate and instill terms according to his likings, he cannot say go fight me blindfolded with hands tied behind your back and Manny will do it.
He is asking Manny, an opponent he considered one-dimensional, come face forward, little asian midget to take full random OST, that is already a stretch for Manny, now with a compromise of 7 negligible days on a cool down period prior to the fight, i think that is just right!!! It's an easy fight for Floyd anyway...

Mayweather's tried comprising, and fairly. He's agreed to everything demanded of him by Pacquiao's side. All he's asked for is testing. Pacquiao's side has never agreed to the initial cutoff in January, and they haven't agreed again.

With what you just said, Mayweather would have given in to the weight, the glove size, and the weight penalty. Now you want him to give in to what Pacquiao's demanding in testing. So Mayweather concedes to all four things that Pacquiao wants. Great logic...

[fcastro1]

Harder? He gave in 50% the first time around with a 14 day cut off and Pac's team wouldn't budge.

Pac's team didn't want to fight Mayweather at '54 or use 10 oz gloves, Mayweather gave way to that concession right away. Not to mention the weight penalty.

Now, Pacquiao, who wouldn't fight Cotto at '47 and made him put his belt on the line at '45.... is going up to fight at '50. Why couldn't Pacuiao give to fighting Cotto at '47 a year ago?

Mayweather fought the guy that Pacquiao didn't want to fight at '47... or even '40 for that matter when offered [via Mosley]. Not only did Mayweather fight Mosley, he beat the guy impressively.

Apparently, there's nothing hard about random testing, it's been done before. If Manny is clean and his blood work shows no signs of using, he may not get tested further than seven days out. Testing is supposed to keep you on your toes and create honest results.

I understand your question, but I don't think Mayweather is being a **** in negotiations considering the concessions he made for Pacquiao and in the timely manner he did so.

Just like Pacquioa clowned Margarito "oh what, you think we are dumb, you know what you were doing." Mayweather could say the same thing about his camp and their reactions to testing.

how is floyd giving concessions when 147 and 8oz gloves are a given. And mosley was a ped user and desperate for money so obviously he would have to comply. r pac has never been tested for drugs, the way Floyd is going on and being insistant that pac take tests is implying that he got to where he is from cheating. Why should pac accept that. Floyd is the one making this fight difficult. He asks for tests against a fighter thats never been caught with drugs and he is changing goalposts from his last negotiations.

[maguirre]

But hey, we wouldn't want to risk Manny's arm getting bruised or have him dehydrated from a piss test.

Nah. Let's just wait for Floyd's next fight. I assume this OST thing is going to be a permanent fixture in his fights. Let's see how it would go. Damn, that would entertain me more than his fight. Let's see what the cut-off next time.

[deejd]

how is floyd giving concessions when 147 and 8oz gloves are a given. And mosley was a ped user and desperate for money so obviously he would have to comply. r pac has never been tested for drugs, the way Floyd is going on and being insistant that pac take tests is implying that he got to where he is from cheating. Why should pac accept that. Floyd is the one making this fight difficult. He asks for tests against a fighter thats never been caught with drugs and he is changing goalposts from his last negotiations.

Mayweather wanted the fight at '54. Anything above 147 deems 10-12oz. gloves. After the Cotto fight, Roach said they'd go up to the next weight class for a title if they didn't get Mayweather. That's why Mayweather proposed fighting at '54 and 10oz. gloves. They said they wanted Mayweather at '47 with 8oz. gloves, no problem, consider it done.

Then they tried to bluff Mayweather out with the $10 million penalty if he weighed in over '47, no problem, consider it done.

As a matter of fact, had Shane not come forth and admitted his usage, that case would have been tossed by now. It took Mosley to admit that he did and give a recorded statement for the allegations to even hold merit.

I'd rather have a legend admit PED use than a "legend" let a, who Pac fans call a "crackhead" put a cloud over their career.

[deejd]

Nah. Let's just wait for Floyd's next fight. I assume this OST thing is going to be a permanent fixture in his fights. Let's see how it would go. Damn, that would entertain me more than his fight. Let's see what the cut-off next time.

There is no cutoff.

[Pullcounter]

taking PEDs 7 days before the fight would be pratically useless.

that said, pbf/mosley's cut off date was around 18 days so what's the big deal.

[maguirre]

I'd rather have a legend admit PED use than a "legend" let a, who Pac fans call a "crackhead" put a cloud over their career.

Nah. Such cloud is an illusion. It exists in forums with members having no life outside of it. That's not reality. That's not what the mainstream media says. Nobody is that dumb to believe these accusations.

[maguirre]

There is no cutoff.

Man, people are not that dumb.

[MUNG]

If it is a 7 day cut of it sounds fair to me, there will also be urine tests during that time and a blood test after the fight, 14 days was fine with the mayweathers before so 7 is another compromise imo, if you dont want to fight then make an issue of it