How Many Pacquiao Opponents Had 6inch Height And Reach Disadvantages?

[i am special]

Ive still yet to hear how Marg can use his size and to what degree. Still havent seen it broke down.

How will Marg use height and reach?

By simply throwing punches that's how. Marg don't use his jab very much,. neither does Pac. So when they both throw punches who's going to have the reach advantage? Margarito.

His height alone means Pac has a longer gap to close down and reach Marg's head. Simple.

Marg's height alone means Pac has to punch higher compared to all the fighters he fought in the past. Punching up usually means you lose power compared to punching horizontally . Simple science.

How is Marg's height and reach not an advantage?

[FeFist]

It's more appropriate to say ''How many opponents have a 6 inch reach over Pacquiao'' having longer arms than someone isn't an automatic advantage it depends on your fighting style.

[Blooper]

I mean, Manny had other fights from super-bantam to super-feather besides Barrera and Morales and Marquez, right?

For instance, I think he was naturally a quite bigger man in the ring with Sanchez, Lucero.


But nah, I wouldn't personally make a thread about it in response to other posters observing how big Margarito appears to be next to Pacman - but someone else might do if they felt there was an overstated perception going around about Pacquiao lacking of size or physical presence. I mean, a lot of people do like to make Pac out to be a smaller than he is.

It clouds things when the word "midget" is being thrown around so *******ly, though, lol.

let's be honest, posters are naturally biased towards their favorite fighters and usually have a specific agenda when they post.

in this particular case, i think burner is attempting to close the door on anyone who's remotely considering giving pac credit if he wins by consistently declaring that the fight is a farce due to a mismatch in pac's favor.

now your guess is as good as mine with regards to what his agenda might be.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

Margarito doesnt use his height and reach?

He fights pretty much the same against a Miguel Cotto as he does against a Paul Williams. By dint of his style, he gives up a lot of the advantage height and reach could give a boxer.


I think his natural size in the sense of physical presence, though, has generally been a factor in the success of his style at 147. There's a reason he doesn't do so well above that weight-class.



If he beats Pacquaio it will owe to size, punch-resistance and conditioning all inseperably weaved together, just as with Cotto.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

He fights pretty much the same against a Paul Williams as he does against a Miguel Cotto. By dint of his style, he gives up a lot of the advantage height and reach could give a boxer.


I think his natural size in the sense of physical presence, though, has generally been a factor in the success of his style at 147. There's a reason he doesn't do so well above that weight-class.



If he beats Pacquaio it will owe to size, punch-resistance and conditioning all inseperably weaved together, just as with Cotto.

I think he uses both. Obviously in a different sense to say Wlad Klitschko which is more a defensive tactic. Margarito uses his length effectively to set up attacks, makes up for his lack of speed when he can throw long shots from the outside.

[bojangles1987]

What I find interesting is that if Marg wins it will not be cuz of size. Size doesn't matter.

However, they say Marg is shot, cheating, nothing without his wraps, slow, ne defense having, plodder.

Then I ask myself if that is the case how can Marg win this fight? It must be cuz of size no?

Stylistically, Margarito has no shot. Athletically, Margarito has no shot. So by far the biggest factor if he wins will be size. The only way he wins is if he can pressure Pac and Pac isn't hurting Margarito enough to back him off, which would be because of Margarito's size.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

let's be honest, posters are naturally biased towards their favorite fighters and usually have a specific agenda when they post.

in this particular case, i think burner is attempting to close the door on anyone who's remotely considering giving pac credit if he wins by consistently declaring that the fight is a farce due to a mismatch in pac's favor.

now your guess is as good as mine with regards to what his agenda might be.

Riddle me this - are the guys who overstate Pacquiao's smallness not just as driven by an agenda as No Ceilings?

ANYWAY,

it's a tough one. I don't know what Margarito's got left, so I can't call his chances, and that's not even mentioning the question mark over whether Margarito's punch has been natural all this time - if anyone else can be certain (and proven accurate) in their assessment of what he brings to this fight, they're more perceptive than me.

The Garcia fight wasn't conclusive as far as figuring that out for me.

If Margarito shows signs of life in there, Pacquiao should be credited for anything he does to him. If we see a sorry-ass shell of what Margarito used to be or was supposed to be, then the win will be discredited a lot (even if he's being outsped and outboxed, we should still be able to discern if Margarito really is a live body).

jroasales13 is a Pacquiao fan and he's giving Pac zero credit for this one before a punch is thrown, while I retain an open mind in that respect, so, you know, there *is* a general perception that this should be a walkover for Manny.



I'm just calling this like I see it. I could care less about the Floyd-Pac thing at this point.

Although I wasn't in support of Margarito stepping straight into it (and I'm a fan of the guy), I'm excited by this fight - it holds a lot of intrigue and could potentially be some fight to witness.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Riddle me this - are the guys who overstate Pacquiao's smallness not just as driven by an agenda as No Ceilings?

ANYWAY,

it's a tough one. I don't know what Margarito's got left, so I can't call his chances, and that's not even mentioning the question mark over whether Margarito's punch has been natural all this time - if anyone else can be certain (and proven accurate) in their assessment of what he brings to this fight, they're more perceptive than me.

The Garcia fight wasn't conclusive as far as figuring that out for me.

If Margarito shows signs of life in there, Pacquiao should be credited for anything he does to him. If we see a sorry-ass shell of what Margarito used to be or was supposed to be, then the win will be discredited a lot (even if he's being outsped and outboxed, we should still be able to discern if Margarito really is a live body).

jroasales13 is a Pacquiao fan and he's giving Pac zero credit for this one before a punch is thrown, while I retain an open mind in that respect, so, you know, there *is* a general perception that this should be a walkover for Manny.



I'm just calling this like I see it. I could care less about the Floyd-Pac thing at this point.

Although I wasn't in support of Margarito stepping straight into it (and I'm a fan of the guy), I'm excited by this fight - it holds a lot of intrigue and could potentially be some fight to witness.

i dont overstate PAC's 'smallness', my only point is that the few advantages that Tony does have ie. height and reach, shouldn't be preemptively dismissed as well (Blooper's point)

if it's a 'live' Margarito then credit must be given...but this whole rhetoric that 'Margarito doesn't have any advantages' and that 'he's completely shot' before even getting that kind of validation before Nov13th had agenda written all over it....i normally dont bite on that type of bait but what the heck, i had some time to kill today


good post tho, especially the bolded part

[daggum]

all of them. pac puts it in the contract that an opponent must chop off their arms and legs enough so that they are at a 6 inch disadvantage when they enter the ring.

[Blooper]

Riddle me this - are the guys who overstate Pacquiao's smallness not just as driven by an agenda as No Ceilings?

ANYWAY,

it's a tough one. I don't know what Margarito's got left, so I can't call his chances, and that's not even mentioning the question mark over whether Margarito's punch has been natural all this time - if anyone else can be certain (and proven accurate) in their assessment of what he brings to this fight, they're more perceptive than me.

The Garcia fight wasn't conclusive as far as figuring that out for me.

If Margarito shows signs of life in there, Pacquiao should be credited for anything he does to him. If we see a sorry-ass shell of what Margarito used to be or was supposed to be, then the win will be discredited a lot (even if he's being outsped and outboxed, we should still be able to discern if Margarito really is a live body).

jroasales13 is a Pacquiao fan and he's giving Pac zero credit for this one before a punch is thrown, while I retain an open mind in that respect, so, you know, there *is* a general perception that this should be a walkover for Manny.



I'm just calling this like I see it. I could care less about the Floyd-Pac thing at this point.

Although I wasn't in support of Margarito stepping straight into it (and I'm a fan of the guy), I'm excited by this fight - it holds a lot of intrigue and could potentially be some fight to witness.

i thought jro said he's giving pac some credit if he wins?

i just don't get it as to why pac would get absolutely nothing from anyone if he pulls this off.

eaner, who's privy to marg's camp has stated time and time again that margs looked as good and motivated as he's ever been.

i'm a pac fan and honestly, i'm a bit nervous with this fight.