Miguel Cotto why oh why didn't you just...

[Bushbaby]

the weight was a NONE FACTOR in that fight.

cotto looked pretty good in that fight. was competitive the first few rounds, was hurt, and decided to back pedal.

and he looked pretty good his last fight too...

Ryannn,1 simple question,why didn't Manny just allow the welterweight limit against Cotto??Weight was absolutely a factor as far as Manny's team was concerned,otherwise the limit would have been acceptable,there is nothing U can say that will make this not correct,if weight wasn't a factor,there wouldn't be a need for a catchweight dawg!!

[jrosales13]

Bro what are you talking about????

Cotto weighed 1lb less from his previous fight and looked healthy at the weigh ins. You wanna see Cotto looking completely drained, look at the weigh in against Malignaggi:

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Now his weigh in with Pacquiao:



Cotto lost because he was in charge of his training camp and had Yes men in his corner not giving him the right instructions. All I heard in that corner was "You can Do It" (c) Rob Schneider.

Bro, he weight 146 against Clottey and from IMDAZED who was at the weigh-in said Cotto was laughing it up and everything. It was Clottey who weight 147 drinking gallons of water.

That tells me that Clottey had problems making 147 while Cotto had not problems making 146.

So I don't see how 145 is really that big of an issue.

Again JCC-Whitaker was 145, not a big issue that Whitaker couldn't make the 147 limit. And, Whitaker should have won that fight. And, Whitaker went on to win a 154 pound belt too.

Again the blow that catch-weight fight with Cotto way out of proportions.

[Ryannn]

Ryannn,1 simple question,why didn't Manny just allow the welterweight limit against Cotto??Weight was absolutely a factor as far as Manny's team was concerned,otherwise the limit would have been acceptable,there is nothing U can say that will make this not correct,if weight wasn't a factor,there wouldn't be a need for a catchweight dawg!!

im talking about how cotto performed even with the catchweight...

did manny's team wanted the catchweight to affect cotto? yes, probably.

did it? hell no...

cotto himself isn't making it as an excuse on why he lost. he never said that "if i was allowed to make 147 limit, i would have performed better". cause it is simply isn't true.

i dunno why some of the guys here are the ones making it as an excuse for him

[Ravishing]

Bro, he weight 146 against Clottey and from IMDAZED who was at the weigh-in said Cotto was laughing it up and everything. It was Clottey who weight 147 drinking gallons of water.

That tells me that Clottey had problems making 147 while Cotto had not problems making 146.

So I don't see how 145 is really that big of an issue.

Again JCC-Whitaker was 145, not a big issue that Whitaker couldn't make the 147 limit. And, Whitaker should have won that fight. And, Whitaker went on to win a 154 pound belt too.

Again the blow that catch-weight fight with Cotto way out of proportions.

Exactly!!!

[Ryannn]

Bro, he weight 146 against Clottey and from IMDAZED who was at the weigh-in said Cotto was laughing it up and everything. It was Clottey who weight 147 drinking gallons of water.

That tells me that Clottey had problems making 147 while Cotto had not problems making 146.

So I don't see how 145 is really that big of an issue.

Again JCC-Whitaker was 145, not a big issue that Whitaker couldn't make the 147 limit. And, Whitaker should have won that fight. And, Whitaker went on to win a 154 pound belt too.

Again the blow that catch-weight fight with Cotto way out of proportions.

nice post...

ive been saying it all along, the out cry on catch weight fights are over the board.

they act like if it is something new. atg's have fought at catch weight fights, won titles in them

there are a lot of things worse in boxing than catch weight fights

[Bushbaby]

im talking about how cotto performed even with the catchweight...

did manny's team wanted the catchweight to affect cotto? yes, probably.

did it? hell no...

cotto himself isn't making it as an excuse on why he lost. he never said that "if i was allowed to make 147 limit, i would have performed better". cause it is simply isn't true.

i dunno why some of the guys here are the ones making it as an excuse for him

I think we are getting off the subject involving Manny,I don't have the energy to fight over this with pages of typing today!!But the bold says it all as far as I'm concerned!!It had to be a big deal to Pacman's team,otherwise there wouldn't be any need for the contract to state that the original welterweight limit of 147 isn't allowed!!Reducing the limit of the weight to 145 made the fight a catchweight,if weight wasn't a factor,their wouldn't have been a need for a catchweight,it's really that simple,but please,can we return to how top rank faught so hard to get Margarito this fight when he was caught trying to cheat against Mosley??

[SuckaPunch]

one of reasons cotto renewed his contract with top rank was because he was promised a shot with pacquiao (and he did).

now, bob arums owns his soul

[Ryannn]

I think we are getting off the subject involving Manny,I don't have the energy to fight over this with pages of typing today!!But the bold says it all as far as I'm concerned!!It had to be a big deal to Pacman's team,otherwise there wouldn't be any need for the contract to state that the original welterweight limit of 147 isn't allowed!!Reducing the limit of the weight to 145 made the fight a catchweight,if weight wasn't a factor,their wouldn't have been a need for a catchweight,it's really that simple,but please,can we return to how top rank faught so hard to get Margarito this fight when he was caught trying to cheat against Mosley??

but it didn't... and cotto didn't use it as an excuse... because it isn't. full credit to pacquiao for that win.

on topic, margarito got the fight cause he is a stablemate of pacquiao and they are promoted by arum obviously.

there are quite a few who deserve a fight with pacquiao more than margarito, but i do think margarito is a legit threat.

[CarlosG815]

What more could GBP do for Cotto that Arum hasn't already done? He's fought just about every Welterweight that's mattered in his time besides Floyd. I don't think Cotto signing with GBP would've gotten Cotto vs Mayweather done any faster. Plus, Cotto at one point was Arum's top dog. He took a loss and obviously his stock went down a bit. It's a part of the business.

You do know that Floyd has a very hard time putting fights together with Top Rank, and he gets along great with Oscar and GBP. How do you figure being with Oscar would not make it easier to get this fight on?

[Ravishing]

I think we are getting off the subject involving Manny,I don't have the energy to fight over this with pages of typing today!!But the bold says it all as far as I'm concerned!!It had to be a big deal to Pacman's team,otherwise there wouldn't be any need for the contract to state that the original welterweight limit of 147 isn't allowed!!Reducing the limit of the weight to 145 made the fight a catchweight,if weight wasn't a factor,their wouldn't have been a need for a catchweight,it's really that simple,but please,can we return to how top rank faught so hard to get Margarito this fight when he was caught trying to cheat against Mosley??

The bottom line though is Cotto making 145 didn't effect his in ring performance. I picked Cotto to win and thought he had a hell of a chance, especially seeing how healthy he looked at the weigh ins. If he had looked like he looked against Malignaggi, I think Cotto would've been dropped for good early on in the fight.