Pacquiao- Does he fight guys coming off losses, or guys with the most to prove?

[check hook]

Hatton: Had his first loss to Mayweather. But everytime a fighter loses for the first time, if he's on a championship level, they come back harder than ever. He was looking sharper and more determined than ever on his fights coming from the mayweather loss, and he completely dominated Malignaggi- an extremely skilled technical boxer who was supposed to give him loads of trouble because of hatton's undisciplined, raw style. And then He gets a shot with Pacquiao- the pound for pound greatest fighter in the world, who, if he beats, makes up for the loss against Mayweather and makes him regain his status as one of the greatest junior welterweights of his time. Who if he lost against, would mean his career would have been close to over. You don't think Hatton trained harder for this fight than he's ever trained?

Cotto: Had his first questionable loss against Margarito, but he never gave up- he was completely determined to get back to what he used to be. He beat jennings and had a poor showing against Clottey, but Clottey cut him bad early, yet he refused to give up. He ignored the pain and fought through it, even though Clottey is a no-name opponent. Then comes Pacquiao, the biggest current superstar in boxing and a chance to make up for his loss against Margarito and to show the world that he was better than what he showed against Jennings and Clottey. Who if he lost against, would mean his career would be close to over. You don't think he trained harder for this fight than he's ever trained? Not only that but he put on a spectacular performance against yuri foreman- A long, slippery and tricky technical boxer that was supposed to give him trouble. Cotto is lightyears away from being shot.

Margarito: Lost his superstar status when he got caught with illegal handwraps, and lost against Mosley after he accomplished everything he's dreamed of and is the champion he always wanted to be, but had everything threatened that night because obviously he knows what happens to fighters who cheat- they get thrown out of the sport a la Resto. And now comes Pacquiao, undoubtedly the biggest superstar in the sport at the moment, giving him a chance to prove that his entire career was not a farce, but that he's a clean fighter. A champion always thinks of himself as the best, or else he wouldn't train so hard or dedicate so much of his life to become who he is. If Margarito beats Pacquiao, then all doubts are put to rest, and he can make his claim as the best welterweight of his time, but if he loses, would mean his career is COMPLETELY over. You don't think he's training harder than he's ever trained for this fight?

Make your own judgements, and don't do it based off of how much you dislike Pacquiao.

Hatton:

- He came back harder and better and sharper than ever.....yet Lazcano (who doesn't hit hard) wobbled him and went the full 12. Also i think he was eating curry and drinking btw fights the way he always does.


Cotto:

Looked terrible against Jennings and prob lost to Clottey....a guy who doesn't throw alot of punches. Yes he beat Foreman......but he was shaky on one leg. I also thought Foreman won a round or two. Also fought Pac at a catchweight.....now fighting at 154!



Margarito ----> Good opponent provided he has no weight issues and his chin isn't cracked. Can't fault Pac on this one.



i do make my own judgements.........why don't you stop baing yours on your like for MP. then you might wtrite something that isn't complete nonsense.

[IronDanHamza]

Yeah, there are definitely times fighters take there first loss or a loss and come back stronger and more hungry and most importantly, better. But the difference here is, Hatton, Cotto and Margarito had just come off brutal KO losses (obviously except there tune ups) and this has an effect on you i believe, the 3 beating they took are enough to snatch a part of your soul. Howeer, I don't think any one them are 'done' so to speak, but at least effected, and not the same, i still think all three were and are live opponents and no doubt Manny deserves credit for them.

Hatton for sure was not mentally as strong as he was in Mayweather fight though, in that fight he was mentally stronger than ever, Cotto and especially Margarito dont seem to be much mentaly weaker like i belive Hatton was.

[IAMBIAZED]

Unfortunately a loss is not the end of the world. Boxing is business. People need to be paid and boxers wants a big payday. You can't just match Manny with the number 7th of the world because the first 6th had loses. Promoters tend to match boxers with someone who is also a cash cow(cotto/floyd)/looks strong to fool(clottey)/bad-ass(Margo).

Take for example, I'd like to see Marquez vs Pac III but because fans think Marquez is no longer significant due to pacman's recent opponents, the higher weight fighters are more attractive, etc, it might not happen again.

Blame the promoters.

PS: You can't use a loss as an excuse. Pacman lost the MoralesPac I but he became a better boxer. The other, on a downhill ride. It's up to the fighter.

[GoogleMe]

Even Roach said they were declining and were shot....

[Bushbaby]

U can make any excuse u like,but the bottom line facts are Pacman has 3 title fights above 140,2 were at catchweights!!Keeping this in mind,If Pacman decided to fight for the 154lb title,he could have taken on a champion!!There's Dizinziruk,Cotto,I'm not sure about k-9,but instead he is fighting Margarito for a vacant title!!When a fighter is called great,great things should be expected!!

People like U are highly critical of Floyd,but make treads like these to try & convince others that Cotto wasn't at a catchweight for apparently no reason!!That Mosley's offer to come down to 143 wasn't disregarded & the only reason Margarito gets this catchweight,vacant title shot is because it makes the most sense financially!!Don't criticize 1 man then make excuses for the other!!

Me,I criticize Floyd,but I criticize Manny too,hell I've criticized the Punisher !!I'm a boxing fan & I expect that when a fighter is great,he should do great things!!Manny already stated that after this fight he'ds going back down to 147,why not fight a real 154lber??An example of great things is when Cotto (who is percieved as less great than Floyd or Manny)went up to 154 & beat a champion that Manny's team said was too big!!

[IAMBIAZED]

U can make any excuse u like,but the bottom line facts are Pacman has 3 title fights above 140,2 were at catchweights!!Keeping this in mind,If Pacman decided to fight for the 154lb title,he could have taken on a champion!!There's Dizinziruk,Cotto,I'm not sure about k-9,but instead he is fighting Margarito for a vacant title!!When a fighter is called great,great things should be expected!!

People like U are highly critical of Floyd,but make treads like these to try & convince others that Cotto wasn't at a catchweight for apparently no reason!!That Mosley's offer to come down to 143 wasn't disregarded & the only reason Margarito gets this catchweight,vacant title shot is because it makes the most sense financially!!Don't criticize 1 man then make excuses for the other!!

Me,I criticize Floyd,but I criticize Manny too,hell I've criticized the Punisher !!I'm a boxing fan & I expect that when a fighter is great,he should do great things!!Manny already stated that after this fight he'ds going back down to 147,why not fight a real 154lber??An example of great things is when Cotto (who is percieved as less great than Floyd or Manny)went up to 154 & beat a champion that Manny's team said was too big!!

It's a 5'11 vs 5'6 guy and you think that's alright?

Cotto vs Pac happened because their at the same height cotto being 5'7.

[Bushbaby]

It's a 5'11 vs 5'6 guy and you think that's alright?

Cotto vs Pac happened because their at the same height cotto being 5'7.

Which 5-11 guy are U talking about??Did U know that Sharmba Mitchel fought the Punisher??

[IAMBIAZED]

Which 5-11 guy are U talking about??Did U know that Sharmba Mitchel fought the Punisher??

If he wants to do a career suicide by fighting fighter too tall for him, more power to him.

If only Arum match roidy regardless of their selling power or risk of being defeated, we wouldn't be in this topic. I for one blame arum.

[Bushbaby]

If he wants to do a career suicide by fighting fighter too tall for him, more power to him.

If only Arum match roidy regardless of their selling power or risk of being defeated, we wouldn't be in this topic. I for one blame arum.

I'm not understanding U,are U saying Pacman deserves a pass & people should blame Arum for this fiasco??

U still haven't answered the 1st question though,which 5-11 fighter do U speak of,is it Margarito that Pacman is fighting,or is it Foreman whom his team said was too big!!Even though the less greater fighter(Miguel Cotto) moved up to 154 & took Foreman's title,while the great Manny Pac is fighting for a vacant title against a cheater at a catchweight,so which 5-11 fighter are U talking about??

[IAMBIAZED]

I'm talking bout height. 5' 11", foreman's height. Manny is not keen on fighting tall fighters Not to mention foreman has a longer reach compared to the 5 feet 6 inches midget.