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    #31
    Originally posted by PainKiller
    People hire him because they know he is good.

    If you think oh he only has pacquiao who he made a lot better, then that applies to all trainers, mayweahers, nacho etc...
    Nacho made 15+ champions. Not just the Marquez Bro's.

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    • Anti~Jalandoni
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      #32
      Originally posted by carts
      he cherry picks all of pacs last opponent and made it look simple to beat them..
      Is it simple to beat oscar, cotto, hatton, JMM and clottey? those are elite fighters....

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        #33
        Originally posted by Hyacinth
        try to refrain from mentioning awards and accolades.
        No point of explaining you everything on how great Roach or Manny is. You already fixed your mind in one thing no matter how we explain in details with sense. All you have to do is discrediting all Pac wins and viola! Roach and Manny are nothing just like a bum! *****!

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          #34
          Originally posted by JDezi4
          Becuz he trains a lot of successful fighters... I mean, I won't comment on how most of them were already successful when he trained them, but still.

          It did take him 8 years to give Pac a decent right hand... but today it's a great right hand... (Even though it only took Floyd Sr 1 training camp to turn Hatton into a boxer)... Whatever.

          I'm sure most people think he's great cuz he's Pacquiao's trainer...
          Sr. turned Hatton to what? He robbed Hatton....thats what happened! He was just there to take the purse as a trainer! Look at how he talks at 24/7 then what happened?

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            #35
            Originally posted by Hyacinth
            then is it fair to say that if pacquiao never existed, freddy wouldn't be the revered coach he is today?
            why do you think benavidez, khan and chavez jr. chose roach to train them.


            simple, they trust roach capacity to develop them more than the other trainers around.

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            • Ray*
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              #36
              Most trainers are overrated!!! They don't even develop a fighter from scratch nowadays, At the moment am still looking for a trainer who was there from the begining, But someone like Roach has made a lot of Improvement and adjustment with fighters like Pac and Khan since they joined him so credit to him.

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              • trainhard_187
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                #37
                Cause the Boxing Writers Association nominated him as Trainer of the Year and they probably know more then any of us on here.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by mariobrotherpr
                  He makes good plans. The plan he devised, and Manny executed, on ODLH was genius.
                  no it wasnt. anyone who knows jack **** about boxing couldve figured out that was the way for pac to fight DLH.

                  roach is a decent strategist, not bad in any way but not amongst the best in the world. ****m richardson is a great strategist, angelo dundee and eddie futch were great strategists. roach is okey, he knows boxing but he doesnt break down oponents that deep. just has his fighter adapt to their style and main strenghts and weaknesses.

                  roach is great in the gym, he is the most dedicated trainer in the world. he is in the gym all day every day, so he gives his top fighters lots of one-on-one time even between fights when they are not in camp. he has alot of world class fighters in his gym of all sizes, so his fighters always get top sparring for their fights. he has a great team of nutritionists and strenght and conditioning trainers who work at the wild card at all times, so fighters get to benefit from them even between fights.

                  roach is one of the best fundamental trainers in boxing, he knows how to build a fighters foundation something which alot of modern trainers either dont know or dont pay enough attention to. at the same time hes a great championship trainer, probably the best short of emanuel steward. meaning he can also take a fighter whos already successful and add to his style without taking away from what made him a top fighter in the first place. that is even harder, most trainers try to change a fighter too much which at a certain stage will do more harm than good.

                  thats some of the reasons freddie roach is a great trainer.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by #1Assassin
                    no it wasnt. anyone who knows jack **** about boxing couldve figured out that was the way for pac to fight DLH.

                    roach is a decent strategist, not bad in any way but not amongst the best in the world. ****m richardson is a great strategist, angelo dundee and eddie futch were great strategists. roach is okey, he knows boxing but he doesnt break down oponents that deep. just has his fighter adapt to their style and main strenghts and weaknesses.

                    roach is great in the gym, he is the most dedicated trainer in the world. he is in the gym all day every day, so he gives his top fighters lots of one-on-one time even between fights when they are not in camp. he has alot of world class fighters in his gym of all sizes, so his fighters always get top sparring for their fights. he has a great team of nutritionists and strenght and conditioning trainers who work at the wild card at all times, so fighters get to benefit from them even between fights.

                    roach is one of the best fundamental trainers in boxing, he knows how to build a fighters foundation something which alot of modern trainers either dont know or dont pay enough attention to. at the same time hes a great championship trainer, probably the best short of emanuel steward. meaning he can also take a fighter whos already successful and add to his style without taking away from what made him a top fighter in the first place. that is even harder, most trainers try to change a fighter too much which at a certain stage will do more harm than good.

                    thats some of the reasons freddie roach is a great trainer.
                    I don't think so... I remember the fight with Hatton, Roach broke down Hattons outside punches perfectly, instructed manny with a specifically timed counter right hook, and that gave him 1st round knockdown...

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                      #40
                      cause he trains manny

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