Comments Thread For: Haye: Klitschkos Like To Fight Old, Run-Down Americans

[edgarg]

Haye was offered 50/50 and turned it down.

The reason Sky pay more than RTL for this fight is that Sky is PPV whereas RTL is free to air. That means well over 20 million German fans will be able to watch the fight, whereas only 1-3 million (absolute maximum) British fans will be able to watch it. The Klitschkos should be applauded for refusing to go down the PPV route, which has made boxing a niche sport in most countries. In Germany, it's still a mainstream sport, in large part because their fights are free to air. The PPV for Haye vs. either Klitschko will destroy all previous British PPV records. A very large proportion of the revenue will be down to the fact that Haye is fighting a Klitschko. To say that they shouldn't get a percentage of the PPV that they help to generate is ridiculous. And to say that the lineal champion, with 11 successful defences, almost all against top 10 opponents, should be paid less than a paper title holder who has only fought one top 10 opponent and only barely beat him in one of the most unimpressive title fights in Heavyweight history, is just laughable.

Haye has done extremely well to get into a position where he can be offered 50/50 with no rematch clauses despite having a very questionable Heavyweight resume. If he had any genuine desire to fight them, he would accept the deal. He won't get a better offer, and he won't make nearly as much fighting anyone else.

There is more comon sense and fact in this post than in anything else I have read on this questionable subject.

[yessuh]

Haye is a fucking coward who only fights old shot bums. He makes a fool of himself everytime he opens his big mouth.

[starkiller]

Haye is a fucking coward who only fights old shot bums. He makes a fool of himself everytime he opens his big mouth.

Haye got knocked down by shot John Ruiz! See how the ropes held his **** talking mouth up? No wonder why he is scared of The Klitschkos.

[edgarg]

How is Haye going to warn the Klitschkos? If the Klitschkos are the Heavyweights to beat, they don't need to chase Haye. WHo the heck is Haye to demand anything? You gotta beat the man to be the man, plain and simple. If Haye retires without fighthing one of the twin towers, his career won't stand up to theirs. They don't need Haye. Haye needs them.

The brothers just have to wait until Haye retires and fight for the title then. Presto!

[Dave Rado]

Taking into consideration who these guys are, Haye, Adamek, Valuev, etc.and what they have done in their sorry excuse for careers, it is normal and reaonsable for a champion to have as much as an 80-20 split, maybe n extremity a 75-25 split. These guidelines are laid down by the governing bodies themselves.

No, for a mandatory, 70-30 or 75-25 is normal if it goes to purse bids, but in practice 60-40 is sometimes negotiated even for mandatories. For a voluntary defence, it is down to the commercial clout of the opponent, and 50-50 is not unknown in a voluntary defence, although that's very rare. For a unification, again it's down to the negotiations, but 50-50 is very common in unifications. 80-20 is not normal, except where the opponent has almost no commercial clout whatsoever.

That said, both Valuev and Haye have been made very good offers. I don't think Adamek got as far as negotiating terms.

[S H A R K B O Y]

Haye's just waiting for him to retire.

[edgarg]

DAVID HAYES A JOKE. THIS QUOTE FROM THE MOVIE "A KNIGHTS TALE" SUMS IT UP PRETTY NICELY.
You have been weighed, you have been measured, and you have been found wanting. In what world could you possibly beat me?

Tekel Tekel....you are right on the ball.

[edgarg]

No, for a mandatory, 70-30 or 75-25 is normal if it goes to purse bids, but in practice 60-40 is sometimes negotiated even for mandatories. For a voluntary defence, it is down to the commercial clout of the opponent, and 50-50 is not unknown in a voluntary defence, although that's very rare. For a unification, again it's down to the negotiations, but 50-50 is very common in unifications. 80-20 is not normal, except where the opponent has almost no commercial clout whatsoever.

That said, both Valuev and Haye have been made very good offers. I don't think Adamek got as far as negotiating terms.

Yes, of course tyoyu are correct, I was,basically generalizing, and thinking mainly of the guys like Adamek etc, not even considereing that Haye holds a title. The more outrageous these guys can be the more attention their mouthings grab, And self adbertisment in Bocxing xircles is the nake of the game. It has been a long time since anyone like the Klitschkos has come along, and I can say in my sixty odd years as a folLower, that I have never seen such dominance, not a single opponent is given ANY chance at all by even a SINGLE analyst. Completely unheard of, and I prophesy that when history talks about this phenomenon, they will have a place by themselves on a pedestal, with the others, Johnson, Tyson, Louis Dempsey etc clustered around the base.

I'm not talking here about their OVERALL standard, but only RELATIVE standard.

In my opinion the best ever would have been a toss up between Tyson and Johnson, with Louis pushing hard for 3rd place. Where to put the brothers in the pantheon is a hard choice, since their situation is unique, And we will want to wait to see what happens with the careers of all those they have crushed. If the prosper, then the brothers are suitably enhanced, if the opposite it means nothing as the bros. must have ruined them. .......so I prefer to wait a while.

[Dagreatest]

Haye looks the part of the champion but so did Bruce Seldon and we all saw what happened in the ring when he faced Tyson. Tyson touched his nerve with a shot that never touched or maybe glanced Seldon and he we went down like he was shot.
Same thing would happen to Haye if he ever faced a Klitschko. Which will never happen, he is scared coward; afraid of facing a real fighter.

[Weltschmerz]

more **** coming out of the mouth of this fraud.. cannot wait for him to retire. Fight a Klitschko or shut the **** up.