Comments Thread For: Maidana Expects Khan To Run: "All I Need is One Punch"

[LeadUppercut]

He's got much more than a puncher's chance, but you're right about going to the body, and he knows that. He's a very good pressure fighter, and Khan's stamina against a good pressure fighter who can punch has never been tested. Khan wilted badly in the late rounds under Kotelnik's pressure, but Kotelnik didn't have a big enough punch to take advantage. And Khan's chin and defence haven't been tested by anyone who can punch since the Prescott debacle. IMO, that makes it a pick 'em fight. Khan will certainly build up a points lead, but Maidana will certainly get enough punches in to slow him down in the late rounds, and at some point, Khan will get hurt. How he reacts when he is hurt will determine the outcome of the fight.

The reason why I think that Maidana only has a small punchers chance is because he has no chance of winning a decision, and I am not convinced that he will land "betsy" late in the fight.

And, even if he does land "betsy", I am not convinced that will be enough.

He is going to have to build an innings. What I mean by that is he will have to set Khan up, starting from the first bell, and continually use smart pressure to break Khan down.

I am not convinced that Marcos has mastered that style, and I am not convinced that gameplan will even be that effective if he has the same stamina issues himself heading into the final few rounds, like in his last fight.

There are too many variables for me .....

* Khan's suspect chin? Will the better weight, better technique/defence make a difference?
* Even if he does land "that" punch, Khan could take it?
* Even if he does land "that" punch, Khan could get up and box his way to a UD
* Khan has more than enough power to keep Maidana honest, Marcos will pay for his mistakes. He must be very patient.

This could be a real good fight, a classic boxer/puncher.

Good stuff, but your last point really hit the mark. Amir is a very young fighter. Which is why I said earlier that Maidana needs to take Khan out of his comfort zone and drag him down an alley. But he will pay the price for his mistakes, I am absolutely positive of that. Freddie will have noticed how Maidana can be exploited.

In saying that, I see your point about Maidana. He has a little X-factor himself. And he is not a straight-forward plodder, he fights to his style really well, and I have noticed subtle little feints/movements on occasion.

You are right, one punch could change the course of that fight. We will see, this could be a real good night.

[Ray*]

Advantage Khan!!!

[Dave Rado]

I am not convinced that gameplan will even be that effective if he has the same stamina issues himself heading into the final few rounds, like in his last fight.

Maidana wasn't fit in that fight. It was obvious from the first round that he hadn't trained properly for it. He's had no stamina issues in any previous fight, and his stamina was great against Kotelnik. He'll train harder for Khan than he's ever trained before, so I don't see his stamina as being a factor at all.

Whereas Khan was fully fit against Kotelnik but still wilted in the late rounds, so I think his stamina under pressure is more of an issue.

The rest of your post is fair enough. But I still think it's more or less a pick 'em fight. Khan should be the slight favourite, IMO, but not a strong favourite.

Roach doesn't under-estimate Maidana like a lot of posters do. He said it's an extremely dangerous fight for Khan, and made it clear that that was why he didn't want Khan to fight him earlier than he is doing.

[LeadUppercut]

He's got much more than a puncher's chance, but you're right about going to the body, and he knows that. He's a very good pressure fighter, and Khan's stamina against a good pressure fighter who can punch has never been tested. Khan wilted badly in the late rounds under Kotelnik's pressure, but Kotelnik didn't have a big enough punch to take advantage. And Khan's chin and defence haven't been tested by anyone who can punch since the Prescott debacle. IMO, that makes it a pick 'em fight. Khan will certainly build up a points lead, but Maidana will certainly get enough punches in to slow him down in the late rounds, and at some point, Khan will get hurt. How he reacts when he is hurt will determine the outcome of the fight.

Thinking about it, Maidana does have more than a punchers chance.

I still have my concerns, as mentioned..... but Maidana has other intangibles that make this interesting. It's his resilience and temperament..... he's a fkn beast.

Khan's gonna have to trank Maidana to stop him. If you ran Maidana over in your car, he would get up and punch you through the windscreen.

And I agree with a point you said earlier, although this is fairly common..... Marcos will knock you out when he is hurt.

I hope he turns up ready to go.

Props to Khan, and good luck to both him and Maidana.

I'm ready for this now, is it morning yet?

[LeadUppercut]

Maidana wasn't fit in that fight. It was obvious from the first round that he hadn't trained properly for it. He's had no stamina issues in any previous fight, and his stamina was great against Kotelnik. He'll train harder for Khan than he's ever trained before, so I don't see his stamina as being a factor at all.

Whereas Khan was fully fit against Kotelnik but still wilted in the late rounds, so I think his stamina under pressure is more of an issue.

Yeah actually, I remember hearing he had issues leading up to that fight.

Roach doesn't under-estimate Maidana like a lot of posters do. He said it's an extremely dangerous fight for Khan, and made it clear that that was why he didn't want Khan to fight him earlier than he is doing.

No way. Freddie goes in with his eyes open.

Props agains to Amir.

And you are correct about timing, I have been saying that for months.

It makes the "coward" callers look a little naive.

But, the same principle applies to Haye, and the others.....

" when I am ready "
~ D Haye



Well, maybe not Haye

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

Well said Chief!
And something else I saw in the Kahn/Malignaggi fight was (I don't know how else to explain this but) Kahn was trying to rush in with a one/two (ala Pac) it almost looked like an younger Pacquiaou move. I think he was trying to emulate some of Mannys earlier moves which I thought he looked pretty awkward doing, and it's quite dangerous for him too. If he tries that move against Maidana he better move a whole lot quicker doing it then he did against Paulie. Anybody else notice it?

Yea, I saw it Lo. Thats why I feel that Roach is gonna have him expand on that now that he's in with a puncher. I think the Paulie fight was used to test it out. Roach knew that Amir is gonna have to get in with a puncher sooner or later, so there why a few things that he worked with Amir on to use in the fight with Paulie.

[Chief2ndzOnly!]

I agree with the fact he does leave his hand off his chin, but then almsot all boxers today leave soemthing out. The most important thing is, is he in range to get hit? Most of the time now, he controls the range very well, so even with his left hand slightly open, he won't get hit that easily unless you have accuracy and speed. Maidana doesn't have both that are great.

Whats happenin PK. It's not that he leaves his hand off his chin, most fighters DO gain a little separation when throwing a punch. The fighters who are disciplined move it in an outward motion(usually when sticking a jab) or they drop it slightly down. Kahn drops his to his waist. THIS is not good for someone who's chin is made out of Mum's worst china. Prescott was never considered a world ****er, and wasn't considered a dangerous ****er when he clipped Amir with that left. Maidana is a World Class ****er. Not only that but he is relentless as well as tough. He's from Argentina, and Argentina is known for producing very tough fighters, so Amir has got to drop a ton of bricks on him to get his respect, or completely outbox him for all 12 rounds. Cause if Amir gets careless it's lights out.

[Rome-By-Ko]

Whats happenin PK. It's not that he leaves his hand off his chin, most fighters DO gain a little separation when throwing a punch. The fighters who are disciplined move it in an outward motion(usually when sticking a jab) or they drop it slightly down. Kahn drops his to his waist. THIS is not good for someone who's chin is made out of Mum's worst china. Prescott was never considered a world ****er, and wasn't considered a dangerous ****er when he clipped Amir with that left. Maidana is a World Class ****er. Not only that but he is relentless as well as tough. He's from Argentina, and Argentina is known for producing very tough fighters, so Amir has got to drop a ton of bricks on him to get his respect, or completely outbox him for all 12 rounds. Cause if Amir gets careless it's lights out.

Need I even bother to post Chiefy got this...