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  • BattlingNelson
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    #71
    Originally posted by Dave Rado
    You have posted that crap over and over again, and every time I have pointed out that Post-concussive syndrome is a temporary disorder from which patients almost always make a complete recovery, usually within a year, and each time I have linked to the following article about Post-concussive syndrome, which you clearly don't even bother to read. Then you simply ignore my post and the linked article and post the same crap again, like a scratched record. Are you completely illiterate???
    Nevertheless previously concussed patients is much more susceptible to future concussions. Dirrell evidently had a major one that nearly turned him into a vegetable, so maybe he'd be wise to quit now.

    What do you think?

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    • BattlingNelson
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      #72
      Originally posted by Dave Rado
      I know someone who has been off work for the past five years with a chronic back injury.
      Yeah. And Dirrell had a 'backinjury' before AA that was cured within a week.

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      • Dave Rado
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        #73
        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Nevertheless previously concussed patients is much more susceptible to future concussions.
        Your "much more" claim is highly debatable, provided that a sufficient time is allowed before the fighter is allowed to fight again. And provided that anyone who has not fully recovered (in the sense of symptoms persisting) is not licensed to fight again until the symptoms have fully cleared up.

        Lots of boxers have been knocked out early in their career without being unusually susceptible in their later careers.

        And repeated heavy blows can cause more damage than actual concussion, as in the case of Ali, who was never knocked out.

        In short, you're greatly over-simplifying a very complex subject.

        Originally posted by BattlingNelson
        Dirrell evidently had a major one that nearly turned him into a vegetable, so maybe he'd be wise to quit now.
        Lots of American footballers suffer from Post-concussive syndrome. Its symptoms are relatively mild - occasional headaches and dizzy spells, which usually disappear within a few weeks and almost never last more than a year. It is for the boxing commissions and Dirrell's close family to either clear him to fight again, or otherwise - not for keyboard know-it-alls.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-12-2010, 05:11 PM.

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        • Dave Rado
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          #74
          Originally posted by BattlingNelson
          Yeah. And Dirrell had a 'backinjury' before AA that was cured within a week.
          Some back injuries last a few days, others last a few years or a lifetime. But I'm not sure what your point is?

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            #75
            Originally posted by Dave Rado
            Your "much more" claim is highly debatable, provided that a sufficient time is allowed before the fighter is allowed to fight again.




            Lots of American footballers suffer from Post-concussive syndrome. Its symptoms are relatively mild - occasional headaches and dizzy spells, which usually disappear within a few weeks and almost never last more than a year. It is for the boxing commisssions and Dirrell's close family to either clear him to fight again, or otherwise - not for keyboards know-it-alls.
            The term 'much more' is quite common knowledge and has recently been proved again from NFL studies. So what do you think? Should Dirrell hang 'em up?

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              #76
              Originally posted by Dave Rado
              Some back injuries last a few days, others last a few years or a lifetime. But I'm not sure what your point is?
              As I said a back injury is IMO not sufficient to warrant a withdrawel from the tournament. A postponement would do it.

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                #77
                Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                The term 'much more' is quite common knowledge and has recently been proved again from NFL studies. So what do you think? Should Dirrell hang 'em up?
                As I said, you're over-simplifying.

                In any case, do you think that all boxers who have ever been knocked out should be permanently banned from the sport? And do you think that all NFL players who have ever been concussed should automatically be banned for life from playing football?

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Siggy
                  i think hes great at building fighter's careers but his penchant for keeping things in house sucks for the sport. i think GBP is more open to working with other promoters than bob is.
                  Fair call bro.

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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Dave Rado
                    As I said, you're over-simplifying.

                    In any case, do you think that all boxers who have ever been knocked out should be permanently banned from the sport? And do you think that all NFL players who have ever been concussed should automatically be banned for life from playing football?
                    I think that if a fighter suffers from post-concussion symptoms for over 6 months should pack it in by himself. Even if the fighter improves, the added risk of new concussions should be enough to make you quit. Boxing cannot be worth the risk of permanent damage.

                    Maybe now we can finally get your opinion?

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                    • Dave Rado
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by BattlingNelson
                      I think that if a fighter suffers from post-concussion symptoms for over 6 months should pack it in by himself. Even if the fighter improves, the added risk of new concussions should be enough to make you quit. Boxing cannot be worth the risk of permanent damage.

                      Maybe now we can finally get your opinion?
                      Suffering from post-concussive syndrome for over 6 months does not necessarily increase the likelihood of new concussions, providing you are fully recovered before fighting again.

                      I already made clear my opinion, which is that if the boxing commissions - who would test him extremely thoroughly before clearing him to fight - and his close family - both think he is fully recovered, then that should be good enough for any objective boxing fan.
                      Last edited by Dave Rado; 10-13-2010, 04:36 AM.

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