Freddie Roach knows the threat that is Antonio Margarito.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Funeka weighed more than Guzman on fight night

So you think Guzman would have eaten Funeka's punches like that, had he shrunk down to 135? Don't think so man.

[Hi-Dro]

They dont seem to have much confidence in Pac... they dont need to try and drain Antonio (not that he'll be drained at 150) Pac will destroy him at any weight IMO.. he'll fight like he did vs Oscar and try not to eat leather too often. He wont trade like in the Cotto fight until the later rounds when Antonio is worn down.

Late KO for Pac..

I wont watch this fight on PPV for two reasons... the Belt on the line at a Catch weight. And the fact that Margo IMO is a dirty cheater. I'll watch Pac kill him in the morning on Youtube.

War PAC!!!!

Margarito doesn't fight like Oscar..
he could turn Cotto, Hatton, and Oscar around and was utterly effective because of their stylistic clash but it will be different against Marg. You throw of a fighter who is dominant and lethal with his left hand when you move him to the left at such a ferocious pace like Pac does which ultimately decreases the punching power of their money punch.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Can that even be negotiated? Have you seen that before? Where 8 oz gloves were used at 154. No really, I'm asking you because I'd like to know. Also, Pacquiao has to come over 147.

He knows that Margarito isn't gonna go into a shell and isn't gonna fold mentally.

He knows that Margario is gonna PUNCH WITH Manny Pacquiao.

He knows that Pacquiao isn't gonna have the same speed at 149, the kind of speed that allows him to hurt guys because they don't see the punches coming.

He knows that 10 oz gloves are going to take away from Pacquiao's speed and power.

He knows that Margarito is gonna be greatly conditioned and will most likely rehydrate up to 167+++.

He also knows that Margarito is very determined and has ALOT to prove.


This is exactly why they want to weaken him. I don't give a shit about "Margarito isn't gonna be drained at 149", those 5...

5 extra pounds would have made a HUGE difference. I'm really sick of that PED infested midget.

Pacquiao has to weigh in over 147 and the 10 oz gloves will do that to him, thats inevitable man. Even Mayweather was noticeably slower against Oscar, and had most of his shots picked off against Oscar.

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pac doesnt have to come in at 149-150. He can come in at 130 if he wants. Dont be ******.

[-PANDA-]

It hasn't, and I do view Margarito as a cheat, but you also have to acknowledge what Margarito brings.

he brings stamina...

his chin now has questionmarks and his power does so even more

there is no basis to assume margarito is the same fighter he was back in 2007 and 2008

[Khalid X]

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pac doesnt have to come in at 149-150. He can come in at 130 if he wants. Dont be ******.

What's the deal with that Willie?

Does he have to come in over 147 for it to be a JMW fight, or can he do like old school fighters, such as Armstrong, and come in 145 and still fight for the title.

I never understood the rules on that and if the different sanctioning bodies treat issues like this differently.

[Pin Galarga]

We have to consider that Margarito was Hand picked for this tuneup. He was out of the scene, HE lost by KO once on his last two fight; then He looked horrible on his comeback fight.
Of course He has two hands and a big middleweight body, but When has boxing being about durable and size? Skills pay the bills and Margarito was good, but never great until He started packing.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

What's the deal with that Willie?

Does he have to come in over 147 for it to be a JMW fight, or can he do like old school fighters, such as Armstrong, and come in 145 and still fight for the title.

I never understood the rules on that and if the different sanctioning bodies treat issues like this differently.

no he doesnt. you can come in at any weight. the only thing that would be frowned upon is if you go OVER THE WEIGHT. NOT UNDER.

I cant stand these *****s who act like they are a expert with tons of research behind them backing them on their weight drained, catchweight, steroid talking points.

THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE, DATA, OR RESEARCH to prove a god da mn thing.

[Doctor_Tenma]

no he doesnt. you can come in at any weight. the only thing that would be frowned upon is if you go OVER THE WEIGHT. NOT UNDER.

I cant stand these *****s who act like they are a expert with tons of research behind them backing them on their weight drained, catchweight, steroid talking points.

THEY HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO EVIDENCE, DATA, OR RESEARCH to prove a god da mn thing.

Thats my mistake then, I thought you had to come in at 147+ to fight at Jr MW.

[Pin Galarga]

In the bold, thats always been the case with Margarito. The problem lies with Margarito constantly coming foward and throwing. Thats when that mental exhaustion kicks in and your left wondering how your gonna get this man (Margarito) off you, then your stamina is zapped. You start to lose concentration and before you know it he's slowly breaking you down.

and Margarito at his best did that. This new version didn't. The bum He chose for his comeback was the one chasing him by the last round.
I just don't think Margarito has that card anymore.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Thats my mistake then, I thought you had to come in at 147+ to fight at Jr MW.

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419542

Read the whole thread & the reason why catchweights were made in the first place. Cliff rold posted on it & tried to play physician & i called out his ass on it.