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  • #11
    Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
    Pacquiao has to weigh in over 147 and the 10 oz gloves will do that to him, thats inevitable man. Even Mayweather was noticeably slower against Oscar, and had most of his shots picked off against Oscar.
    I doubt we'll see much of a difference, sparring and training normally happens with bigger gloves to get the speed up. I don't think 10 ounce gloves will make much of a difference, his speed looks almost the same with big gloves on, that's in training though so you never know. I just don't expect it to be that big of a difference.

    I don't think they'll come in heavier for 2 ounces. Mayweather came in at 150 because that's basically his fighting weight, he just didn't have to cut the 3 pounds to make 147. Pacquiao apparently has to eat 6 meals a day or something to get up to around 145, not even 150.

    Plus, is it confirmed that the fight will take place with 10 ounce gloves? Sometimes the glove size can be negotiated and doesn't always have to follow commission rules. I don't think Margarito would disagree to 8 ounce gloves, he would probably feel more comfortable with them anyways since the majority of his career has been at 147 and he'd probably think it would amplify his punching power.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
      He knows that Margarito isn't gonna go into a shell and isn't gonna fold mentally.

      He knows that Margario is gonna PUNCH WITH Manny Pacquiao.

      He knows that Pacquiao isn't gonna have the same speed at 149, the kind of speed that allows him to hurt guys because they don't see the punches coming.

      He knows that 10 oz gloves are going to take away from Pacquiao's speed and power.

      He knows that Margarito is gonna be greatly conditioned and will most likely rehydrate up to 167+++.

      He also knows that Margarito is very determined and has ALOT to prove.


      This is exactly why they want to weaken him. I don't give a shit about "Margarito isn't gonna be drained at 149", those 5...

      5 extra pounds would have made a HUGE difference. I'm really sick of that PED infested midget.
      how is margarito gonna punch with pac if he cant match him punch for punch.......pac will land 4-5 shots to margarito's one and will likely be out of range for him to land that shot

      margarito stops throwing punches when he gets hit...theres a clear pattern....he is going to get hit A LOT

      margarito is slower than oscar, cotto, hatton and even clottey...cotto was getting shots in and getting out and he isnt even half as fast as pacquiao is

      margarito might be determined but he will be discouraged once he finds out he can be hurt by this 'midget' and cant catch him back....he will feel frustration like the first 6 rounds of the williams fight only this time he might not make it to the final bell

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
        Well man, thats exactly what he IS.


        Hey man, whatever you say!

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Silencers View Post
          I doubt we'll see much of a difference, sparring and training normally happens with bigger gloves to get the speed up. I don't think 10 ounce gloves will make much of a difference, his speed looks almost the same with big gloves on, that's in training though so you never know. I just don't expect it to be that big of a difference.

          I don't think they'll come in heavier for 2 ounces. Mayweather came in at 150 because that's basically his fighting weight, he just didn't have to cut the 3 pounds to make 147. Pacquiao apparently has to eat 6 meals a day or something to get up to around 145, not even 150.

          Plus, is it confirmed that the fight will take place with 10 ounce gloves? Sometimes the glove size can be negotiated and doesn't always have to follow commission rules. I don't think Margarito would disagree to 8 ounce gloves, he would probably feel more comfortable with them anyways since the majority of his career has been at 147 and he'd probably think it would amplify his punching power.
          Can that even be negotiated? Have you seen that before? Where 8 oz gloves were used at 154. No really, I'm asking you because I'd like to know. Also, Pacquiao has to come over 147.
          Last edited by Doctor_Tenma; 10-04-2010, 08:16 AM.

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          • #15
            Guys, Roach knows that there is a strong possiblilty that Margarito can walk through Pacquiao's punches. You don't just demand a 149 pound catchweight for no reason.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
              Can that even be negotiated? Have you seen that before? No really, I'm asking you because I'd like to know. Also, Pacquiao has to come over 147.
              I don't know if it's been done but I believe it can be done if both fighters agree to it.

              Why does Pacquiao have to come in over 147? There's a 150 pound weight limit for the fight for a 154 pound title, I don't believe there's such a thing as a minimum weight for a division.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                Guys, Roach knows that there is a strong possiblilty that Margarito can walk through Pacquiao's punches. You don't just demand a 149 pound catchweight for no reason.
                you on point today Dom .....alot of real talk coming from you!!

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Silencers View Post
                  I don't know if it's been done but I believe it can be done if both fighters agree to it.

                  Why does Pacquiao have to come in over 147? There's a 150 pound weight limit for the fight for a 154 pound title, I don't believe there's such a thing as a minimum weight for a division.
                  You probably right, but I'd really love an example :-/

                  Originally posted by SekondzOut View Post
                  you on point today Dom .....alot of real talk coming from you!!
                  Yeah man, so much that needs to be looked at. Thanks

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                  • #19
                    In my opinion most of Guzman's success against Funeka (Rematch) was because of a better game plan, but I'm not gonna act like Guzman wasn't eating Funeka's punches like M & Ms. These things matter, and Margarito is made to come down to 149 for a reason. People need to wake up...

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Dominicano Soy! View Post
                      In my opinion most of Guzman's success against Funeka (Rematch) was because of a better game plan, but I'm not gonna act like Guzman wasn't eating Funeka's punches like M & Ms. These things matter, and Margarito is made to come down to 149 for a reason. People need to wake up...


                      Wide awake here mate.

                      You know how I feel about these ****ing catchweights with a title to boot, even though I'm a pacfan, but what else can we do?

                      Anyone out there got a plan other than just quitting the whining and just watch this fight unfold?

                      How bout you Dom soy? You got any suggestions?

                      Coz you guys are right! Roach wants this for a reason, there's gotta be a reason why they pushed for a 149 if they did.

                      But what can we do huh?

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