Freddie Roach knows the threat that is Antonio Margarito.

[Doctor_Tenma]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=419542

Read the whole thread & the reason why catchweights were made in the first place. Cliff rold posted on it & tried to play physician & i called out his ass on it.

I'll give it a read.

and Margarito at his best did that. This new version didn't. The bum He chose for his comeback was the one chasing him by the last round.
I just don't think Margarito has that card anymore.

Yeah but we're gonna get a different Margarito in my opinion.

[Khalid X]

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=419542

Read the whole thread & the reason why catchweights were made in the first place. Cliff rold posted on it & tried to play physician & i called out his ass on it.

OK I remember that thread. A personal favorite of mines. I agree with you 100% but I was always curious about fighting for a title and coming in under the weight limit.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

I'll give it a read.



Yeah but we're gonna get a different Margarito in my opinion.

cliff was the one that gave me the answer on why catchweights were made. then he tried to play doctor that contradicted his answer.

boxing writers playing catcweight research doctors. unbelievable. cliff is my favorite writer on the scene but i just had to call him out on that.

[Khalid X]

cliff was the one that gave me the answer on why catchweights were made. then he tried to play doctor that contradicted his answer.

boxing writers playing catcweight research doctors. unbelievable. cliff is my favorite writer on the scene but i just had to call him out on that.

I remember reading that back in the day and in a nutshell, before the 24 rehydration rule, fighters where protected from guys blowing up 16-20lb after a weigh in.

For example if this fight was held back in the day, both Manny and Tony would have to weigh under 154 the day of the fight. What that means is Margarito would more than likely be 154-158 on fight night. With the 24 rehydration thing we have now, even with the catchweight, Margarito has a day to rehydrate, meaning he could show up in the mid 160's


There was no need for catchweights back in the day for the reasons I mentioned above. The whole point of catchweights is to prevent huge disparities in weights on fight night.....something same day weigh-ins prevented in the first place.

[ИATAS]

So you think Guzman would have eaten Funeka's punches like that, had he shrunk down to 135? Don't think so man.

depends on what he would have rehydrated to and how hard it would have been for him to even make 135 (if even possible).

I think the guzman/funeka example actually is more of a reason why 150 pounds will be good for Margarito. You're talking about a career 147-154 pound fighter here.

[Doctor_Tenma]

cliff was the one that gave me the answer on why catchweights were made. then he tried to play doctor that contradicted his answer.

boxing writers playing catcweight research doctors. unbelievable. cliff is my favorite writer on the scene but i just had to call him out on that.

Sorry dude, but I don't agree with that. Just because Cotto, Margarito or whoever rehydrates a certain amount does not take away from the hard work that is put into making weight. Look at Quintana, he looked drained at the weigh in for Berto, then he rehydrated to who knows how much and still looked very weak against Berto.

[Khalid X]

Sorry dude, but I don't agree with that. Just because Cotto, Margarito or whoever rehydrates a certain amount does not take away from the hard work that is put into making weight. Look at Quintana, he looked drained at the weigh in for Berto, then he rehydrated to who knows how much and still looked very weak against Berto.

Actually that last point co-signs what he was saying. Let's say Quintana had to fight Berto later that day after looking like that at the weigh in.

The rehydration rule helps fighters out a lot and even to the point some use it to there advantage.

If we still had same day weigh in's....catchweights would rarely, if ever, happen in boxing.

[Doctor_Tenma]

Actually that last point co-signs what he was saying. Let's say Quintana had to fight Berto later that day after looking like that at the weigh in.

The rehydration rule helps fighters out a lot and even to the point some use it to there advantage.

If we still had same day weigh in's....catchweights would rarely, if ever, happen in boxing.

You don't all of a sudden recover because of rehydrating man, Quintana looked pathetic. I understand what the writer is saying, but I dont agree with him there.

[Mr. Fantastic]

I still don't understand why they would hide the sparring this time around when they didn't with DLH, Hatton, COTTO, Diaz & Clottey.

[Khalid X]

You don't all of a sudden recover because of rehydrating man, Quintana looked pathetic. I understand what the writer is saying, but I dont agree with him there.

I'm not saying that either. What I'm saying is having 24 hours will allow your body to recover, replenish itself, and increase the chances of you putting weight back on as compared to draining yourself and having to fight in that shape later on that day.


Catchweights are put in affect to prevent a guy from ballooning up large amounts in 24 hours.

If there was same day weight in...then that wouldn't happen....making catchweights a moot point.

Not to start a debate but do you honestly think Clottey would have put on 23lbs against corrales if there was a same day weigh in?