I think Wlad Hits Harder Than Prime Tyson...

[nomadman]

Mike generated power from his legs and the torque of his squat body, Wlad generated power from the full extension of his long arms and punching down at his opponents. Totally different types of power. Tyson was more likely to knock an opponent out in the early rounds due to his ferocious and varied attack, Wlad to break down an opponent and stop him in the later rounds due to the cumulative effect of his pinpoint jabs, right hands. I think raw power wise Wlad hits a tad harder simply due to his height and weight advantage, but he needs to get full extension on his punches to do his damage. Tyson's dynamic power could hurt you at any stage and with more or less any punch. Wlad's opponents are more likely to be able to brace themselves for a right hand, whilst that's not the case for Tyson's opponents given the variety of Tyson's assault.

[check hook]

Where are you guys coming from? Have you ever even watched a boxing fight Rimmy? Possibly behind Foreman? What about Tyson, Shavers, Baer, Lewis, Cooney, Ruddock, Morrisson and hundreds others? Wlad wouldn't even make the top 60 hardest hitters in history, facts....Best yes, but not hardest

Earnie Shavers was stated to hit 4x harder than your average heavy, and Wlad is only slightly above average


Hard to call the end of the Lewis-Vitali fight, both were dog tired, but Vitali WAS the one clinching for dear life at the end...

thankyou........it's widely accepted Shavers actually hit harder than Foreman by men who have faced both fighters.

Liston is another that can be mentioned aswell.

[check hook]

Mike generated power from his legs and the torque of his squat body, Wlad generated power from the full extension of his long arms and punching down at his opponents. Totally different types of power. Tyson was more likely to knock an opponent out in the early rounds due to his ferocious and varied attack, Wlad to break down an opponent and stop him in the later rounds due to the cumulative effect of his pinpoint jabs, right hands. I think raw power wise Wlad hits a tad harder simply due to his height and weight advantage, but he needs to get full extension on his punches to do his damage. Tyson's dynamic power could hurt you at any stage and with more or less any punch. Wlad's opponents are more likely to be able to brace themselves for a right hand, whilst that's not the case for Tyson's opponents given the variety of Tyson's assault.

and the speed.....hurts more when u don't see it.

[check hook]

Why do the Trolls **** talk the heavyweights now adays when they weren't much better in Tyson's era? Holmes and Spinks are the best wins on Tyson's resume.

Pinklon Thomas, Berbick, Spinks, Tony Tucker, Frank Bruno & Razor Ruddock would mop the floor with alot of guys Wlad has beaten.

[nomadman]

and the speed.....hurts more when u don't see it.

Prime for Prime I don't think the speed difference was great enough to factor into it as much as the differences in their offensive style.

[DET. IRONSIDE]

A prime Mike Tyson assault: Several combos stitched together at blistering speed are much bigger than Wlad's biggest assault.

Is one punch bigger than the other? It doesn't matter if you want to do damage your opponent quickly and put him on the canvas as soon as possible, thats where Tyson excelled in his prime.

Wlad would probably box you for 7-8 rounds and then put you on the canvas with a two or three punch combo at most. Tyson would simply pressure fight, hammer away at oyu right from the outset.

Its more fun to watch than Wlad but theres no argument for one having greater punch power than the other. If you throw one big punch that drains all your energy thats nothing compared to a massive combination of boneshaking, braindamagingly fast punches...and thats how Tyson rolled.

Still think Wlad's arsenal may have a bigger bomb in it than Tyson's but Mike had a vast arsenal of bombs not too far away from that that he could roll out from bell to bell.

Non-stop. Wlad doesn't do that.

[shade darkar]

i wouldnt have thought so, doesnt tyson have the record for most first round KO's?

[have_not]

Mike generated power from his legs and the torque of his squat body, Wlad generated power from the full extension of his long arms and punching down at his opponents. Totally different types of power. Tyson was more likely to knock an opponent out in the early rounds due to his ferocious and varied attack, Wlad to break down an opponent and stop him in the later rounds due to the cumulative effect of his pinpoint jabs, right hands. I think raw power wise Wlad hits a tad harder simply due to his height and weight advantage, but he needs to get full extension on his punches to do his damage. Tyson's dynamic power could hurt you at any stage and with more or less any punch. Wlad's opponents are more likely to be able to brace themselves for a right hand, whilst that's not the case for Tyson's opponents given the variety of Tyson's assault.

This guy actually knows boxing unlike most of the people on this site

[have_not]

From a interview with emanul steward talking about punching power: His views on Klitschko going forward:
“I think based on this performance here and his own conversations with me in the recent days that he realizes that he is actually too reluctant, too intelligent, too technical—that I think you’re going to see a much more aggressive fighter in Wladimir. If this man actually would just operate with close to 80%—he’s only operating with about 60%—he would be the most devastating heavyweight in the history of boxing because I’ve worked with him. Never, ever, ever have I been involved with a fighter who has so much one punch punching power. Even guys that knock somebody out—they get them hurt, they knock them down, they get them groggy—Wladimir is the only fighter I’ve ever worked with that everything can be normal like a big party—everybody is having champagne, on the floors, in the tuxedos, with the music—and the lights go off completely at one time. I mean it’s not like a gradual dimmer switch. I never saw anyone who knocked out people in a gym when they block punches and he did that about three weeks ago with a sparring partner—two weeks ago, prior to the fight. With a sparring partner he threw a left hook, the sparring partner blocked the punch and with twenty ounce gloves he was still knocked out. He has unbelievable one punch punching power and that’s why maybe he doesn’t put combinations together because he punches so effectively and with so much power with one punch, but his handicap and problem is he feints too much. He wants everything to be perfect—perfect balance, perfect this, and the last round he was a little overly aggressive, got out of position a few times, but to go three minutes with a guy with his power is like a lifetime because even if he just grazes you with a punch, you’re going to be hurt.”

His views on Wladimir’s punching power:
“What makes him really special also is he has so much power in the late rounds. A lot of guys, great punchers like (Mike) Tyson, they were great in the early rounds but very seldom in the late rounds. Wladimir has knocked out guys like he did with Chris Byrd, and (Ray) Austin, and Eliseo Castillo—he knocked those guys out early because he threw a punch early, an early power punch. And then he’s had the power to go out after being down three times with Sam Peter and he had him out on his feet in the twelfth round of a very grueling fight with one single punch, a left hook. Then he knocked out Thompson. With Tony Thompson he ran across the ring and threw one straight right hand in the eleventh round and just walked away, and Thompson went down totally finished. Now he knocks out this guy in the twelfth round with ten or twelve seconds left with one punch. To have a fighter that has that kind of devastating one punch clean knockout power is so much stress on the opponent because you’re never safe.”

[DET. IRONSIDE]

^^^^^

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