Comments Thread For: Schaefer: Victor Ortiz Can Make a Statement With Kotelnik

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  • Steelhammer2011
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    #21
    FAO: rabagiyo

    Here's some pics of your hero Chris Arreola getting humiliated and destroyed by Vitali Klitschko.



    Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 10-03-2010, 10:05 PM.

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    • Siggy
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      #22
      Originally posted by Alex_Hayden
      Kotelnik's biggest advantage is his size. He was twice the size of Maidana when they fought and bigger than Khan when they fought.

      The common theme in his fights are that his opponents are busier than him but he's so big that come the later rounds his opponents are fatigued and Kotelnik slightly starts to mount a soft comeback/sustained attack. It's never anything too serious. Just quick abc boxing.

      But I saw Khan sneak in a sharp little uppercut that seemed to bother Kotelnik, instead of following up on it Khan just continued to run around him. Ortiz on the other hand has the power to do more damage.

      If Ortiz doesn't forget Kotelniks rib cage and doesn't run/hop around too much on his toes and get tired in the later rounds like Alexander did, Vic can stop him if not get the UD. This is going to be awesome and a chance for Ortiz to make a HUGE statement.
      kotelnik's biggest advantage isnt his size. he comes in big on fight night but so does ortiz.
      ortiz is a ww fighting at 140 (or close to it). ortiz is one of the biggest JWW's as well, so size isnt really an advantage for either fighter.

      kotlenik's biggest advantage is either his shield defense or his timing.
      hes like the clottey of the 140 division, but he can be out-boxed and can be outworked.
      ortiz needs to outbox him and beat on his gloves, arms and body til kotelnik's defense is weakened and he's forced to take more chances.

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      • AKATheMack
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        #23
        It will not be close I promise. Ortiz will humiliate this kid. Kotelnik is B class.

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        • Siggy
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          #24
          Originally posted by AKATheMack
          It will not be close I promise. Ortiz will humiliate this kid. Kotelnik is B class.
          if kotelnik is b class, what does that make alexander?

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            #25
            Originally posted by Siggy
            if kotelnik is b class, what does that make alexander?
            B class as well. Khan and Ortiz are the best fighters at 140.

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            • Gabilan
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              #26
              Originally posted by tito_bandito
              If Ortiz stops Koltelnik he will be the most feared man at 140 pounds...
              Um, exagerrate much?

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                #27
                Originally posted by AKATheMack
                B class as well. Khan and Ortiz are the best fighters at 140.
                I pretty much agree talent wise they are but where is Bradley?

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                • Steak
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
                  FAO: rabagiyo

                  Here's some pics of your hero Chris Arreola getting humiliated and destroyed by Vitali Klitschko.


                  that one always cracked me up.

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                  • Scott9945
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                    #29
                    Look for Ortiz to copy Khan's blueprint and win a clear decision.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Steelhammer2010
                      You're delusional.

                      Ortiz couldn't even stop an old shot Nate Campbell.

                      Kotelnik has great defence, an iron chin and a big heart. He has never been down in the pros or amatuers. Ortiz CAN'T stop him.

                      People need to stop overrating Ortiz and underrating Kotelnik.

                      Kotelnik dominated Alexander (who is better than Ortiz IMO)

                      Kotelnik is the only man to beat Maidana (who destroyed Ortiz in 6)

                      Who has Ortiz beat?

                      Ortiz is mentally weak and has no heart. Just watch the Maidana fight and the post fight interview.

                      Kotelnik is too tough for this puto.
                      Kotelnik BARELY beat Maidana who is like Ortiz with ZERO of Ortiz's skill and speed. And if u really think Alexander is that much better than Ortiz, than u r UNDERRATING Ortiz. One thing that Ortiz has that Alexander does not have is 2 different fighting styles (at least on the day he fought Kotelnik). He can fight forward and backward. Not to mention Ortiz's power dwarfs Alexander's. As hard as Kotelnik's fight with Maidana was for him, the more accurate, faster, far more skilled, far more adaptable Ortiz will show him something Maidana never could.
                      Last edited by JDezi4; 10-03-2010, 11:42 PM.

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