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Originally posted by Dambala View PostYes, he will make a statement, he will KO Kotelnik, he's tailor made for him.
Ortiz couldn't even stop an old shot Nate Campbell.
Kotelnik has great defence, an iron chin and a big heart. He has never been down in the pros or amatuers. Ortiz CAN'T stop him.
People need to stop overrating Ortiz and underrating Kotelnik.
Kotelnik dominated Alexander (who is better than Ortiz IMO)
Kotelnik is the only man to beat Maidana (who destroyed Ortiz in 6)
Who has Ortiz beat?
Ortiz is mentally weak and has no heart. Just watch the Maidana fight and the post fight interview.
Kotelnik is too tough for this puto.
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Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View PostYou're delusional.
Ortiz couldn't even stop an old shot Nate Campbell.
Kotelnik has great defence, an iron chin and a big heart. He has never been down in the pros or amatuers. Ortiz CAN'T stop him.
People need to stop overrating Ortiz and underrating Kotelnik.
Kotelnik dominated Alexander (who is better than Ortiz IMO)
Kotelnik is the only man to beat Maidana (who destroyed Ortiz in 6)
Who has Ortiz beat?
Ortiz is mentally weak and has no heart. Just watch the Maidana fight and the post fight interview.
Kotelnik is too tough for this puto.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postwhy is gbp matching ortiz with light punchers? i mean, atleast fight urango.
Kotelnik is not a big puncher, but he has enough power to hurt Ortiz.
Kotelnik was hurting Alexander, who has a better chin than Ortiz.Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 10-03-2010, 10:15 PM.
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Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View PostYou're delusional.
Ortiz couldn't even stop an old shot Nate Campbell.
Kotelnik has great defence, an iron chin and a big heart. He has never been down in the pros or amatuers. Ortiz CAN'T stop him.
People need to stop overrating Ortiz and underrating Kotelnik.
Kotelnik dominated Alexander (who is better than Ortiz IMO)
Kotelnik is the only man to beat Maidana (who destroyed Ortiz in 6)
Who has Ortiz beat?
Ortiz is mentally weak and has no heart. Just watch the Maidana fight and the post fight interview.
Kotelnik is too tough for this puto.
Speaking of bums, look at wlad getting KTFO by a bumno wonder he fights nothing but tomato cans and bums now, he's a ****ing joke in a ****ty division
or getting his ass kicked by lamon brewster LMAO
Wladimir Klitschko just throws jab jab right hand and constantly repeats it,its all he does,Boring as hell to watch! He's nothing but an over rated hype job Eastern EuropeanLast edited by -Rab; 10-03-2010, 09:46 PM.
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Kotelnik's biggest advantage is his size. He was twice the size of Maidana when they fought and bigger than Khan when they fought.
The common theme in his fights are that his opponents are busier than him but he's so big that come the later rounds his opponents are fatigued and Kotelnik slightly starts to mount a soft comeback/sustained attack. It's never anything too serious. Just quick abc boxing.
But I saw Khan sneak in a sharp little uppercut that seemed to bother Kotelnik, instead of following up on it Khan just continued to run around him. Ortiz on the other hand has the power to do more damage.
If Ortiz doesn't forget Kotelniks rib cage and doesn't run/hop around too much on his toes and get tired in the later rounds like Alexander did, Vic can stop him if not get the UD. This is going to be awesome and a chance for Ortiz to make a HUGE statement.
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Bringing up Wlad's losses is just plain ******ed. It's like bringing up Pacquiao's KO losses. It's totally irrelevant.
Wlad is just entering his prime. He has improved greatly since those losses. He hasn't been down or hurt in over 5 years. He hasn't lost a single round in over 5 years.
Wlad has a very impressive resume.
- Most dominant fighter in the world
- Has cleaned out the HW division
- Lineal/IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world
- Olympic Gold Medalist
- 49 KOs in 55 wins
- Has made 16 dominant world title defences
- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:
Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Sam Peter I (24-0)
Sam Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)
- has defeated tons of top contenders:
Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc....Last edited by Steelhammer2011; 10-03-2010, 10:16 PM.
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Originally posted by Steelhammer2010 View PostBringing up Wlad's losses is just plain ******ed. It's like bringing up Pacquiao's KO losses. It's totally irrelevant.
Wlad is just entering his prime. He hasn't been hurt or down in 5 years. He hasn't lost a single round in 5 years.
Wlad has a very impressive resume.
- Most dominant fighter in the world
- Has cleaned out the HW division
- Lineal/IBF/WBO/IBO/RING Unified heavyweight champion of the world
- Olympic Gold Medalist
- 49 KOs in 55 wins
- Has made 16 dominant world title defences
- Has defeated 8 world heavyweight champions:
Chris Byrd I (31-1)
Chris Byrd II (39-2)
Sam Peter I (24-0)
Sam Peter II (34-3)
Ruslan Chagaev (25-0)
Sultan Ibragimov (22-0)
Lamon Brewster (33-3)
Hasim Rahman (45-5)
Francois Botha (44-3)
Ray Mercer (30-4)
- has defeated tons of top contenders:
Eddie Chambers (35-1)
Calvin Brock (29-0)
Tony Thompson (31-1)
Jameel McCline (28-2)
Monte Barrett (23-0)
Ray Austin (24-3)
DaVarryl Williamson (20-2)
Axel Schulz (26-3)
Derrick Jefferson (23-2)
Charles Shufford (17-1)
Eliseo Castillo (18-0)
etc....
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