So if Margarito is so easy why did Team Pacquiao refuse 151 and want 149

[HandSpeed303]

So are you admitting that the catch weight will affect Margarito or not?
They don't feel comfortable with Manny at 154? So the catch weight could be implemented to assist him?

And I never said he'd be drained, that's why I emphasized I was responding to your post about how Margarito would be affected, not drained.

No it will not affect Margo...My reply was in reguards to Manny (and why his team asked for a catchweight)...That being, it was more that Manny would not be able to do 154, and not that Margo couldn't (or wouldn't be at his best at 150).. Nice try buddy.

The catchweight for a belt is bull****. Now if there was no belt involved, then there would be no argument. Cause Margo is just fine at 150.

Get it.

BTW: You can't talk me to death. I see where you stand, and you just want to find something to hate on...Cool, good for you. Please don't waste my time.

[check hook]

How?!?!? By god, someone please tell me how the weight will affect Margo.

ok. Margarito is now in his thirties....32 to be exact. He's been fighting at 147 since when?? About 17 or 18 years of age.

He had a forced layoff of 1.5 years. The longest stretch of inactivity in his entire carrer (i think). At a minimum he usually fights twice a year if not more. This means he is constantly used to coming back down and making weight. When you are moving down constantly and regularly it is easier to do.

Given the long layoff and advancing years he would have found it harder to make weight when coming back......hence they came back at 54 and not 47.

I'm not sure the catchweight will have an impact, but i'm guessing that is does.

[check hook]

Originally Posted by mathed
So let me get this right........Margs is gonna be weight drained huh? Look at his past 12 fight weigh in weights........

153
147
147
146.5
147
145.5
147
147
146.5
146
154
147

I know right.....I wonder what happened in between these two fights when Margs dropped from 154 after the Santos fight to 146? He must have been a skeleton yet he still won...how on earth did he do it...lol?

my explanation as to whyn i think the weight is a factor is in the above post

[HandSpeed303]

ok. Margarito is now in his thirties....32 to be exact. He's been fighting at 147 since when?? About 17 or 18 years of age.

He had a forced layoff of 1.5 years. The longest stretch of inactivity in his entire carrer (i think). At a minimum he usually fights twice a year if not more. This means he is constantly used to coming back down and making weight. When you are moving down constantly and regularly it is easier to do.

Given the long layoff and advancing years he would have found it harder to make weight when coming back......hence they came back at 54 and not 47.

I'm not sure the catchweight will have an impact, but i'm guessing that is does.

Good explanation, and thanks for going into deatail...I don't agree.

I happen to think that the weight (of 150) will be to Margo's advantage. I happen to think the weight of 150 will back fire in team Pac's face. I happen to think they would have had a easier time with Margo at 154 (a weight that Margo has never been comfortable with, and doesn't prefer to be at...That might actually have leveled the playing field more than 150)...

I happen to think meeting Margo in the middle will come back to haunt team Pac (cause he was at 147 for so long, and will be stronger coming into the fighter). Of course I could be wrong, but I do not think 150 will drain Margo, or weaken Margo, or have any adverse affects on Margo.

This weight issue is just something else for folks to b*tch about (like there isn't enough already in this fight)...The fact that it is for a belt, I do not agree with, but as far as it having a bad affect or "draining" Margo...Folks can just kill that noise.

Margo will be ready, and will not be a zombie in the ring with Pac.

I really hope Margo pulls it off!..But if he doesn't, it won't be cause of the catchweight...

[tibbar]

One thats had a long lay off and blown up to 154 , he looks ****** out already and because of the lay off will not make the 150 easy it will be very hard because once it goes on its much harder to get off , its Pac weight draining again no matter what spin you put it on , a weight class is a weight class and Pac fights only when he can pull them down below the weight limit for that class which is wrong , how the *** can it be a legit 154 title when his bull**** conditions dont allow a fighter to be at the official limit .

and you have the authority saying these because of what? you had drained a horse, or a greyhound or you drained a F1 of its radiator? better change your name you have no credibility ho'boy

[Nimexicatl]

Margarito said it was originally 151 and Team Pacquiao refused and demanded 149....they eventually agreed to 150 lb.


If Margarito is so easy and made for Pacquiao...why are they so scared?

DRAIN EM'.

Drained and without loaded gloves .. Oh **** The Cheater is f@ck!

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

Do people know that when Marg took a year off and made his comeback he was at 154 Pounds?

So the last time he weighed anything less than 154 was January of 2009. And we was KO'd.

[HandSpeed303]

Do people know that when Marg took a year off and made his comeback he was at 154 Pounds?
So the last time he weighed anything less than 154 was January of 2009. And we was KO'd.

Ummm, yes we know that Burner...What is your point? That he will be drained at 150?

Like I said in my earlier post, 150 just might be good for him. Really....YOu know what, nevermind. You didn't come in here to debate anything.

You just came to play captin obvious...

Why don't you quote who you are replying to next time.

[Kagami Taiga]

Ummm, yes we know that Burner...What is your point? That he will be drained at 150?

Like I said in my earlier post, 150 just might be good for him. Really....YOu know what, nevermind. You didn't come in here to debate anything.

You just came to play captin obvious...

Why don't you quote who you are replying to next time.

if u think 150 will be good for marg, why doesnt roach and pac's team share your sentiment?? guess they kno something u dont. the fact is even if fighting at 150 doesnt drain marg, it lessens his size advatage over pac, that size advantage is about the only advantage he has. roach is smart, he wants to take away all possible advantages margs has that could potentially lead to an upset. its as clear as day. team pac doesnt ask for these catch weights for no reason, that **** should be obvious by now to everyone who has followed pac for the last few years.

[HandSpeed303]

if u think 150 will be good for marg, why doesnt roach and pac's team share your sentiment?? guess they kno something u dont. the fact is even if fighting at 150 doesnt drain marg, it lessens his size advatage over pac, that size advantage is about the only advantage he has. roach is smart, he wants to take away all possible advantages margs has that could potentially lead to an upset. its as clear as day. team pac doesnt ask for these catch weights for no reason, that **** should be obvious by now to everyone who has followed pac for the last few years.

I stopped reading right there...How the hell am I supposed to know that?...Come on man! Besides, quote another post of mine, not this one I gave up on.

Thanks in advance.