Erik Morales gives Manny Pacquiao a boxing lesson (VIDEO)

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  • check hook
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    #11
    Originally posted by PainKiller
    So Floyd has not cherry picked?

    Okay I am out of here.


    Floyd's dominance has been questioned once......he gave that fighter an immediate rematch and left no doubt.

    Pac lost to a past prime EM (who had just lost) and rematched him off coming off a fight in which he lost every round and to compound that they put in a rehydration clause.....and EM was still whipping him early until the fatigue caght up.

    Manny has won world titles and then lost them. Another time his "dominance" was questioned was against JMM.......how long did he wait to give JMM a rematch he was chasing??? 4 years?? And what happened.....he got a SD in a fight many people including his resident nuthugger on this site thought he lost.

    I think that's the point the TS was trying to make......

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    • PainKiller
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      #12
      Originally posted by check hook
      Floyd's dominance has been questioned once......he gave that fighter an immediate rematch and left no doubt.

      Pac lost to a past prime EM (who had just lost) and rematched him off coming off a fight in which he lost every round and to compound that they put in a rehydration clause.....and EM was still whipping him early until the fatigue caght up.

      Manny has won world titles and then lost them. Another time his "dominance" was questioned was against JMM.......how long did he wait to give JMM a rematch he was chasing??? 4 years?? And what happened.....he got a SD in a fight many people including his resident nuthugger on this site thought he lost.

      I think that's the point the TS was trying to make......
      Manny has lost and had close fights, but that doesn't mean he is a bad boxer. Boxers have a green, prime and shot period.

      They also face boxers that are better than them on a given day.

      Some are undefeated, but that does not mean they have faced every single fighter out there.

      I know Manny has lost and had close fights, but I am still a fan. He is doing something people did not think he could do 3 years ago.

      However, that does not mean Floyd has not cherry picked. You can say the same about Pac if you want.

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      • check hook
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        #13
        Originally posted by PainKiller
        Manny has lost and had close fights, but that doesn't mean he is a bad boxer. Boxers have a green, prime and shot period.

        They also face boxers that are better than them on a given day.

        Some are undefeated, but that does not mean they have faced every single fighter out there.

        I know Manny has lost and had close fights, but I am still a fan. He is doing something people did not think he could do 3 years ago.

        However, that does not mean Floyd has not cherry picked. You can say the same about Pac if you want.


        Pac (more accurately Roach) has been more guilty of cherry picking recently than Floyd. Most fighters when they get into the position of Floyd and Pac pick and choose their fights.

        I'm not saying Pac is a bad boxer. In fact if Pac vs Floyd comes off next year i would have to say it's a toss up.......

        I'm just saying Floyd has been more dominant throughout his entire career.

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        • Carpe Diem
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          #14
          I warned you...lol

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          • rao007
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            #15
            Originally posted by check hook
            Pac (more accurately Roach) has been more guilty of cherry picking recently than Floyd. Most fighters when they get into the position of Floyd and Pac pick and choose their fights.

            I'm not saying Pac is a bad boxer. In fact if Pac vs Floyd comes off next year i would have to say it's a toss up.......

            I'm just saying Floyd has been more dominant throughout his entire career.
            I don't consider outpointing your opponents into boring decisions "dominant"---it sounds like a misnomer when you think of Mayweather.

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            • dolfan2909
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              #16
              LOL anyone else notice roy jones is calling morales barrera's name the entire fight

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              • joelab75
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                #17
                Morales dominated Manny in the first fight and the score cards were all 7-5 rounds in favor of Morales right? is that what u call a BOXING LESSON? Manny was probably 2-3 more years to his prime and not his best weight and still won 5 rounds.

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                • King Ju-Ju
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                  #18
                  Tell that little ***** in your avatar 2 man up and fight him

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                  • JK1700
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PainKiller
                    I agree that Morales gave Manny a good fight.

                    Without the cut and a better weight for Manny, he won.

                    However, I am glad Pac actually improved.
                    Pathetic excuse. Why would he win without the cut? Pacquiao was being outboxed and knocked around before the cut even happened. Morales was just a much better fighter with better skills.

                    The rematch means nothing, since Morales was completely dominated by Zahir Raheem in the fight prior. Where he lost every round and then had to cut down to 130 for another fight with Pacquiao. Any true champion would have fought the winner of that fight but Pacquiao fought the loser and made him fight a division below his natural weight and still struggled to beat him.

                    He got elevated into the p4p #3 for beating a shot fighter who was comletely and utterly dominated in the fight prior. It doesnt make sense.

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                    • JK1700
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by PainKiller
                      So Floyd has not cherry picked?

                      Okay I am out of here.
                      Name me someone who he cherry picked! I'm waiting...

                      Marquez? The guy who beat Pacroid twice?

                      Mosley? The guy who ****d Pacroid's next opponent?

                      Oscar? The 154lb champ and cash cow of boxing?

                      The idea that Floyd cherry picked his opponents is a myth. He beat Judah who had just lost to Baldomir but then beat Carlos aswell. Those two were the #1 and #2 welterweights at the time. He also beat the two best Lightweights of his era in Corrales and Castillo. And cleaned out 130.

                      I know what your going to say. "He ducked Cotto, He ducked Margarito" but you can't fight everyone and we all know Bob Arum never wanted to make those fights. He preferred to keep all the money "in house" and just mention Floyd to get more attention. When Margarito was the #1 Welterweight Floyd was retired. Before then, he had no name or recognition. Say what you want about Baldomir but he had just beat the Undisputed 147lb champ and would have had the WBA and IBF belts aswell as the WBC if he had paid the sanctioning fees.

                      So after that fight his choice was Oscar or Margarito.

                      There's only one winner there.
                      Last edited by JK1700; 10-05-2010, 05:08 AM.

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