More proof Floyd ducked coming out. We know Manny agreed to full OST during 2nd negs.

[RL_GMA]

My question to everyone really is, what's the definition of "Full Testing" in relation to OSTs? Based on what I read on this forum from many of those who are on the Million Man OST March is that both fighters would be doing countless blood tests just prior to the fight, when in reality that isn't or never was the case.

As an example, both Mosley and Mayweather went through the OSTs and were required random blood AND urine testing. According to Travis Tygart & the NSAC (link here), both Mosley and Mayweather were not required to take blood tests starting 18 days prior to the fight, but they were still obligated to take random urine tests just days before the fight itself and immediately after, which constitutes into "Full Testing". Both Pacquiao, Roach, and Arum have indeed stated in the past that they'd do up to a 14 day cut off for blood testing. Now, many of the Mayweather fans are in an uproar towards Pacquiao now stating they agreed to all the drug testing, etc with no cut off date. Am I going to outright believe Pacquiao or his people just because he said so? Not necessarily, but I'm also not one to automatically accuse him of cheating if they're even going along with the testing in the 1st place (IMO, its a big risk even testing if you're genuinely hiding something). Team Pacquiao based on what I've seen don't have a demeanor to sabotage the fight with Mayweather. They simply could've said, "No thanks, we're not taking the fight", which ultimately would've made Pac look that much more su****ious, but we've really seen nothing of the sort, and even now there's no smoking gun or evidence that Pacquiao was juicing against Clottey, Cotto, De La Hoya, and now even with Margarito (or we shall see after the fight). Comes to a point where you gotta just bite the bullet.

As I've stated months before, the OST issue when this fight finally commences is going to be the least of the worries on both sides.

[vellz13]

the only thing we know for sure is that when both sides were negotiating publically, pacquiao b*tched out. No amount of conjecture afterward changes that. Sucks to be a ******* but no one asked you to be a d*ckrider. You happily volunteered.

^^^^^^^^^^this!

[maguirre]

In fairness, if Manny comes out and says he will do it, i will let all the other garbage go. Because at the end of the day he will be stepping up the plate to prove to everyone hes clean, and all the accusations can stop, although he should have just done this in the first place.

The thing that really gets me is, the Pacqiauo fans that didn't agree with Mayweather asking for the tests orginally, and were saying 'Mayweather was ducking Manny because of this', and 'Floyd has no rght asking Manny to take extra tests, let the comission do there job!' are now all for the testing just because Manny has apparently agreed to them lol What they should do is stick to there guns and critisize Manny for 'giving in' to Mayweathers demands, but i dont believe they care less about the testing, had Manny agreed to it straight away there would be no issue at all and everything would be fine.

There's a huge difference. Pac fans want to see the fight badly. They are capable of giving in no matter how ridiculous these ****** testing rules are.

*****s can't even accept 14 days. WTF is that?

They were getting ready to launch another roadblock which is the PPV crap just in case Manny agreed. Man, these are morons.

Look at them now, they are quiet about the PPV ****. Why?

There's a possibility that the Marg/Pac fight would break records. That's why.

[jrosales13]

Why does this ******* have to create an alt to address me?

I am ashamed

[IronDanHamza]

My question to everyone really is, what's the definition of "Full Testing" in relation to OSTs? Based on what I read on this forum from many of those who are on the Million Man OST March is that both fighters would be doing countless blood tests just prior to the fight, when in reality that isn't or never was the case.

As an example, both Mosley and Mayweather went through the OSTs and were required random blood AND urine testing. According to Travis Tygart & the NSAC (link here), both Mosley and Mayweather were not required to take blood tests starting 18 days prior to the fight, but they were still obligated to take random urine tests just days before the fight itself and immediately after, which constitutes into "Full Testing". Both Pacquiao, Roach, and Arum have indeed stated in the past that they'd do up to a 14 day cut off for blood testing. Now, many of the Mayweather fans are in an uproar towards Pacquiao or now stating they agreed to all the drug testing, etc with no cut off date. Am I going to outright believe Pacquiao or his people just because he said so? Not necessarily, but I'm also not one to automatically accuse him of cheating if they're even going along with the testing in the 1st place. Team Pacquiao based on what I've seen don't have a demeanor to sabotage the fight with Mayweather. They simply could've said, "No thanks, we're not taking the fight", which ultimately would've made Pac look that much more su****ious, but we've really seen nothing of the sort, and even now there's no smoking gun or evidence that Pacquiao was juicing against Clottey, Cotto, De La Hoya, and now even with Margarito (or we shall see after the fight).

As I've stated months before, the OST issue when this fight commences, drug testing IMO is going to be the least of the worries on both sides.

Full testing is POSSIBLE random testing up until the day of the fight. The thing is those dates are all random, and although testing was stopped at 18 days, Floyd and Shane both could have been tested at any time in those 18 days, they wern't aware that was going to be the last test, in conclusion, this would most likely stop them from using any PED's during training, for the simple fact they MIGHT get tested. No one is going to take the risk in using PED's when theres a chance they could be tested at any time any place up until the day of the fight.

As for Manny, did i think he was on PED's before the whole Mayweather thing? No. After he refused the test do i THINK he is? Possibly, but at the same time, i cant say he is as of right now because there is no proof, only su****sion. And if Manny comes out and takes the test and passes, i will have the world of respect for him for proving everyone wrong, he should prove everyone wrong!

[Alibata]

July 7 -
“They stopped taking blood 18 days before [Mayweather-Mosley], so that shows that they can do it and be fine,” Arum would tell Lance Pugmire of the LA Times, explaining why he believes 14 days should be sufficient to satisfy Mayweather’s demands. “We’re saying the same thing, that if there’s information that emerges in the final 14 days, we can go to the [state boxing] commission and ask for more tests. We can work it out. No one’s looking to pull any fast ones.”

July 17:
Pacquiao didn't want to submit to blood tests too close to a fight, his camp said. Pacquiao budged on the issue during these talks, moving from a 24-day cutoff of blood testing to 14 days. But all along the Mayweather camp has been silent.

July 15 - should be noted that despite the fact that Mayweather has insisted on random blood testing up until the day of the fight, Pacquiao has only agreed to a 14-day cutoff for random blood testing.

Now all these very same sources are reporting and suggesting, Pacquiao agreed to full OST or at least suggesting it was Floyd's fault.. Go figure.

[IMDAZED]

Now all these very same sources are reporting and suggesting, Pacquiao agreed to full OST or at least suggesting it was Floyd's fault.. Go figure.

Yeah, you're right...NOW. As in, after he signed to fight someone else. Go figure

[Alibata]

Yeah, you're right...NOW. As in, after he signed to fight someone else. Go figure

At least you ain't a dumb *****. Welcome back....

[IMDAZED]

At least you ain't a dumb *****. Welcome back....

Yeah, kinda ruined your thread

[MOTHER DUCKER]

Not sure if this has been touched on.. but if PAC was fine for the full OST on the 2nd negs then surely he ducked Floyd during the first set of talks?