Manny has nothing to prove after he beat Margs
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As a matter of fact, he could retire after beating those 3 Mexicans HOF warriors (Barrera, Morales and JMM) and will be considered as ATG/Greatest fighter of ASIA. By the time he was at 130 nobody thought he can beat any fighter above 130 considering he started from 106. Beating Diaz at 135 would be icing on the cake but he went for more! Beating Hatton in his best weight amd made Oscar quit after moving up virtually 3 divisions above at the same time doing at the fashion much better than Mayweather wins to them. He could retire again after that without fighting Floyd and will be considered higher than him in ATG rankings. BUT HE DID NOT, he made Floyd doubt himselff, asked for he did not ask to his 40 opponents (OST), when Pac called his bluff he quickly went to vacation! The best thing is Pac fought those fighters he avoided while he rather retired than fighting them. so yes! Pac can retire now after the Marg fight and enjoy the fruits of his very hard labor from the beginning all the way to the top where he is now. His story is truly amazing and inspirational. Boxing History will be kind to him as nobody may able to break his records and accomplishments in boxing many decades or centuries to come! Hate us his fans *****s but not Pac. He is a good nice guy and did nothing wrong to Floyd or all of you guys.Last edited by whirlwind; 09-27-2010, 08:47 PM.Comment
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preach..............Stop with the madness and this vacation talk. After Manny turned down A show down with Mayweather and fought clottey in March, it wasnt until july when they wanted to negotiate a fight with floyd. From march to july is 5 months of vacation. Floyd had just fought in May so that was 3 months later. Its okay for manny to take a vacation and then talk about fighting but the moment floyd says "hey i just fought, the number 1 guy, i'm not thinking about you poochie" everyone gets mad. Lmao thats so funny. IF pac really wanted to fight it would've happened in March straight up. And if he was really trying to fight the best he would've fought mosley or berto instead of clottey and Paul williams or Martinez at 154 instead of Margarito. He's beating all top rank fighters and that shi* aint LEGIT!Comment
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From Cotto to Clottey.Stop with the madness and this vacation talk. After Manny turned down A show down with Mayweather and fought clottey in March, it wasnt until july when they wanted to negotiate a fight with floyd. From march to july is 5 months of vacation. Floyd had just fought in May so that was 3 months later. Its okay for manny to take a vacation and then talk about fighting but the moment floyd says "hey i just fought, the number 1 guy, i'm not thinking about you poochie" everyone gets mad. Lmao thats so funny. IF pac really wanted to fight it would've happened in March straight up. And if he was really trying to fight the best he would've fought mosley or berto instead of clottey and Paul williams or Martinez at 154 instead of Margarito. He's beating all top rank fighters and that shi* aint LEGIT!
November, December, January, February, March.
5 months for Pac to fight 2 guys Floyd refused to fight.
Pac signed the Clottey fight less than 2 months after fighting Cotto and he began to negotiate with Mayweather camp with even less time than that.
Floyd needs at least 3 months before even thinking about Boxing.
The man is such a diva. He needs to stick to fighting women.Comment
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I kinda disagree.It's all there to be seen what this man has achieved in his career, his legacy will be embedded in stone after Margarito is beaten in spectacular fashion. Manny has done it all, and I for one will applaud him after he beats Margarito. The mans legacy speaks for itself, and Margarito will be the icing on the cake. Manny can't possibly be discredited in his career, he's fought every fighter, and has went on some journey. I never fought he'd go as far as he has done in his carrer, he's come along way, accomplished just about everything he can. I have a feeling Margarito maybe his last fight so i'm going to try and enjoy it as much as I can. If Mayweather vs Pacquaio doesn't happen, then you can bet Manny will probably retire..
Outside of the close fights with Marquez and his first fight with Morales we haven't even seen Pacquiao in the ring with a true elite fighter. For the most part his jump up in weight classes have been against average to below average in-house champions that were pretty much set up for him one way or the other.
At this stage of his career you would have hoped to see him in with at least Bradley if not Berto. Or with Mosley back when Shane was still relevant.
Imo Manny has had it pretty easy regarding moving up in weight classes. I don't think there's been a fighter that has moved up from lightweight in the past 20 years that has had it easier than Pacquiao.Comment
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in retrospect, i agree. as of late i kind of put his 130 days behind him and im looking at him as a full fledged welter who can also still challenge guys @ 140. i think coming up in weight is what made Manny a complete fighter. i think he's healthier and has better stamina, only adding to his already deadly offense. if he stayed between 130 and 140 i believe we would have seen more close wars and possibly seen him beat by now. it's amazing what he has done (i personally think the Cotto fight is what turned me around) but i still cannot get the fact out of my head that he hasn't fought anyone who has already been previously beaten or knocked out. not taking anything away from him but it's the truth.When he was at 130, I never thought that he could go to 140 and above. I never gave him a chance against Dela Hoya, Cotto, or Clottey. Hatton was the only guy I kinda gave him a chance to beat and I even had Hatton going in as a slight favor. Manny has done the impossible in my eyes.Comment
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You want the truth? Being undefeated is overrated to highest extent, the same those has some loses being underratted and counted out. Pac has some loses too but why nobody counting him out? You see....Boxers at 140 who currently undefeated are Bradly, Alexander, Olusegun, McCloskey, Kemagai, at 147 Berto, Brook, Senchenko, Aydin, Jones and many more. Honestly apart from Bradley or Berto but still he will beat them both, the rest Pac will just destroy them all. So what is the point of beating them when everybody knows he will beat them badly beside there is no money on them?in retrospect, i agree. as of late i kind of put his 130 days behind him and im looking at him as a full fledged welter who can also still challenge guys @ 140. i think coming up in weight is what made Manny a complete fighter. i think he's healthier and has better stamina, only adding to his already deadly offense. if he stayed between 130 and 140 i believe we would have seen more close wars and possibly seen him beat by now. it's amazing what he has done (i personally think the Cotto fight is what turned me around) but i still cannot get the fact out of my head that he hasn't fought anyone who has already been previously beaten or knocked out. not taking anything away from him but it's the truth.Last edited by whirlwind; 09-27-2010, 09:35 PM.Comment
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preach......................I kinda disagree.
Outside of the close fights with Marquez and his first fight with Morales we haven't even seen Pacquiao in the ring with a true elite fighter. For the most part his jump up in weight classes have been against average to below average in-house champions that were pretty much set up for him one way or the other.
At this stage of his career you would have hoped to see him in with at least Bradley if not Berto. Or with Mosley back when Shane was still relevant.
Imo Manny has had it pretty easy regarding moving up in weight classes. I don't think there's been a fighter that has moved up from lightweight in the past 20 years that has had it easier than Pacquiao.Comment
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