No Ceilings/Burner says roy jones didn't have skills ...lol, WTF! What u guys think?

[blaze778]

Roy had no skills? That has to be taken out of context.

Roy had very unique skills, that no one else really possessed.

You can't train a fighter to fight like Roy and expect him to be successful. Roy is not a textbook type boxer.

[JmH Reborn]

Roy's natural skills (i.e. talent) overshadowed his lack of fundamental skills that were exposed as he got older.

In his prime/youth, he was just so gifted naturally that I believe he felt that he didn't have to hone in on the basics like your standard fighter that need equal amounts of fundamental skills and inherent talent to make it in this sport.

All in all, he was a marvel in his hey day, I just wish he'd hang it up. I don't want the guy hurt, he already slurs and speaks at times incoherently enough to make me uncomfortable

[Silencers]

Jones didn't and doesn't have great fundamental skills, he basically admitted as much before the Hopkins rematch when he said Hopkins was a guy that had to climb a ladder to get to the top of the roof but he was so gifted that he didn't need the ladder and jumped straight up.

[Toney616]

i thought griffin was a counterpuncher as well

Yeah he was as well. And he gave Jones fits in their first fight

[Toney616]

This was THE point at which his downfall began. What ever steroids he took to gain that 24 lbs of muscle that quick for the john ruiz fight, made his body change, and it never was the same again after he lost the weight.

it was crazy how roy was shreaded at 175 lbs .... then he was suddenly shreaded at 199 lbs ...... after spending my life at gold's gym i know for a fact that 24 lbs of lean muscle gain is IMPOSSIBLE . Period. WITHOUT JUICE helping the process.

His speed was sapped after the ruiz fight. that tarver shyte had me fucced up for a while man. seriously, i couldn't believe that.

what a fall from grace

That is a good point, I suspect the same thing happened as well