Quality vs Quantity. Mexico exposed!!!

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lmfao than why do your elite always lost to a mexican?


your talking about a 3rd world country, people over there NEED to work in order to survive, boxing doesnt pay u until u turn pro, thats why alot of fighters from over there turn pro at early age..soccer is also the #1 sport people follow... look at cotto who never had a ***en job and just boxed his entire life.. only to make his ass take a knee vs a mexican with no real amateur background

[HaglerSteelChin]

yeah, cause I'm using logic, and you are using favoritism. you want to talk accomplishments?



check the list of fighters that have one or more belts in 3 different divisions.

mexico has 7 ( chavez, de la hoya, tapia, morales, barrera, marquez, montiel)

de la hoya and tapia where listed as americans, but I'll give you that.

pr has 6 (benitez, gomez, camacho, vasquez, trinidad, cotto)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boxing_triple_champions

wilfredo benitez was the youngest ever champion at the tender age of 17.

puerto rico has had a champion/titlist in ever single division.

heavy-john ruiz
cruiser- carlos de leon
light heavy-jose torres
supermiddle-manny siaca
middle- trinidad
light middle-benitez
welterweight-benitez
superlightweight-benitez
lightweight-carlos ortiz
superfeather-alfredo escalera
feather-juan laporte
superbantam-gomez
bantam-julian solis
superfly-jose ruiz
fly-eric morel
lightfly-jose de jesus
strawweight-alex sanchez


but that counts for nothing, right?

and what exactly makes jcc better than tito all time? please explain it to me.

as far as I'm concerned they're pretty even. the only people who have him in higher standard are the ones who glorify his bloated ass record.

mexican boxing in the last three decades has caught up to pr, and some could argue has surpassed. they've got alot of young fighters coming up. and it looks like pr is falling off, but mexico has a hell of alot bigger population than pr, so there's that math.

and those that act like pr's accomplishments pale in comparison, clearly have a bias.

and mr.lucci, it was a pretty inflammatory title, bro. these discussions never end well because someone eggs the other side on.

I would put Samuel Serrano higher than Laporte as Serrano i believe defended his title like 12 times as a feather(going by memory no boxrec or wiki).

Edit: My bad, Serrano was a Super Feather and not Featherweight Champion.

[ELHURACAN58]

I would put Samuel Serrano higher than Laporte as Serrano i believe defended his title like 12 times as a feather(going by memory no boxrec or wiki).

Edit: My bad, Serrano was a Super Feather and not Featherweight Champion.

I think I can name a champ for every division without the need to use guys that have titles in three divisions. Lets see:

105- Sanchez
108- Dieppa
112- Morel
115- Ruiz
118- Jimenez
122- Juanma
126- Laporte
130- Molina
135- Rosario
140- Ortiz
147- Quintana
154- Santos
160- Trinidad (ah damn!)
166- Siaca
175- Torres
190- De Leon
200- Ruiz

[AntonTheMeh]

lmfao than why do your elite always lost to a mexican?


your talking about a 3rd world country, people over there NEED to work in order to survive, boxing doesnt pay u until u turn pro, thats why alot of fighters from over there turn pro at early age..soccer is also the #1 sport people follow... look at cotto who never had a ***en job and just boxed his entire life.. only to make his ass take a knee vs a mexican with no real amateur background

and you're mexican elite are only elite till they lose to a rican. and act like it isn't so. and baseball, basketball are arguably pr's favorite sports.

you want to talk all this none sense about 3rd world country, fine, its still doesn't change the fact that they have 10 times the population of pr and thus, have a higher probably of having MORE fighters.

[-Rab]

Mr Lucci and Mr Fantastic can't get my d*ck out of their mouth

[AntonTheMeh]

I would put Samuel Serrano higher than Laporte as Serrano i believe defended his title like 12 times as a feather(going by memory no boxrec or wiki).

Edit: My bad, Serrano was a Super Feather and not Featherweight Champion.

i wasn't listing all the champions. just the first in those divisions.

[guerrerosoul]

Mexican greats > PR greats, Mexicans go around the world to challenge and conquer titles fighting in the opponents turf, Japan, Thailand, UK Philippines,US, PR, Like Montiel KO the Japanese, and the Mexican kid that KO Llinares, Finito Lopez did it many times Librado Andrade, Segura KO Calderun etc
Ricans are to much of a cowards to do that, they always fight in PR and more of their champions are from the corrupted OMB. just listen to their excuses ROLF

[DeelDough]

yeah, cause I'm using logic, and you are using favoritism. you want to talk accomplishments?



check the list of fighters that have one or more belts in 3 different divisions.

mexico has 7 ( chavez, de la hoya, tapia, morales, barrera, marquez, montiel)

de la hoya and tapia where listed as americans, but I'll give you that.

pr has 6 (benitez, gomez, camacho, vasquez, trinidad, cotto)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_boxing_triple_champions

wilfredo benitez was the youngest ever champion at the tender age of 17.

puerto rico has had a champion/titlist in ever single division.

heavy-john ruiz
cruiser- carlos de leon
light heavy-jose torres
supermiddle-manny siaca
middle- trinidad
light middle-benitez
welterweight-benitez
superlightweight-benitez
lightweight-carlos ortiz
superfeather-alfredo escalera
feather-juan laporte
superbantam-gomez
bantam-julian solis
superfly-jose ruiz
fly-eric morel
lightfly-jose de jesus
strawweight-alex sanchez


but that counts for nothing, right?

and what exactly makes jcc better than tito all time? please explain it to me.

as far as I'm concerned they're pretty even. the only people who have him in higher standard are the ones who glorify his bloated ass record.

mexican boxing in the last three decades has caught up to pr, and some could argue has surpassed. they've got alot of young fighters coming up. and it looks like pr is falling off, but mexico has a hell of alot bigger population than pr, so there's that math.

and those that act like pr's accomplishments pale in comparison, clearly have a bias.

and mr.lucci, it was a pretty inflammatory title, bro. these discussions never end well because someone eggs the other side on.

They were already embarrassed and hurt with what i posted , and are looking for an explanation or an excuse. Why would you post this??

It could only hurt them more.

I feel sorry for them.

[DeelDough]

Mexican greats > PR greats, Mexicans go around the world to challenge and conquer titles fighting in the opponents turf, Japan, Thailand, UK Philippines,US, PR, Like Montiel KO the Japanese, and the Mexican kid that KO Llinares, Finito Lopez did it many times Librado Andrade, Segura KO Calderun etc
Ricans are to much of a cowards to do that, they always fight in PR and more of their champions are from the corrupted OMB. just listen to their excuses ROLF

we dont have the necessity , which is different.

You do it because we are superior , and you just cant have it any other way.

[guerrerosoul]

we dont have the necessity , which is different.

You do it because we are superior , and you just cant have it any other way.

Translation we don't have balls, like Kneeguel Quito, Brick Hands , Cheato Triniwraps, Ivan Calderun etc,