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  • TheEvilSaint
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    #51
    Originally posted by JUYJUY
    Anybody who says that Hagler beats Benn easily has no place on a boxing board, Hagler himself would laught at you for saying that. People are saying that Benn beats Hearns, and Hearns was Hagler's toughest fight.
    i dont think hagler would beat benn EASILY, but he would beat benn.

    hagler's superior chin, power, and his southpaw style ALONE would be enough to beat benn.

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    • JUYJUY
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      #52
      Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
      i dont think hagler would beat benn EASILY, but he would beat benn.

      hagler's superior chin, power, and his southpaw style ALONE would be enough to beat benn.
      I don't see how having a superior chin, power and a southpaw style ALONE would beat Nigel Benn?? That's strange!

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      • JUYJUY
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        #53
        Originally posted by finesse
        I don't think they mean the fight would be an easy one. There are very few "easy" fights on the level these two fighters fought at, I think they're saying they'd easily pick Hagler over Benn, because they see more ways of Hagler winning than they do of Benn.
        Well I hope that's what they mean, because I don't think Benn would be an easy fight for anybody

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        • TheEvilSaint
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          #54
          Originally posted by JUYJUY
          I don't see how having a superior chin, power and a southpaw style ALONE would beat Nigel Benn?? That's strange!
          with a stronger chin, benn cant hurt hagler.

          with more power, hagler CAN knockout benn.

          as an exceptional southpaw, hagler CAN outbox benn.

          what advantage does benn have over hagler?

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            #55
            Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
            with a stronger chin, benn cant hurt hagler.

            with more power, hagler CAN knockout benn.

            as an exceptional southpaw, hagler CAN outbox benn.

            what advantage does benn have over hagler?
            i agree with your chin and power comments, but not with your "outboxing" one. hagler was never a great boxer, he was a great brawler, but as we saw in the sugar ray fight, when hagler tries to box, it doesnt weild good results. in the early rounds, hagler tried to box, to show he was a better boxer than sugar, but he lost many of those rounds...later in the fight he went back to his brawling style and almost salvaged the fight

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            • JUYJUY
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              #56
              Originally posted by TheEvilSaint
              with a stronger chin, benn cant hurt hagler.

              with more power, hagler CAN knockout benn.

              as an exceptional southpaw, hagler CAN outbox benn.

              what advantage does benn have over hagler?
              Hagler probably had a stronger chin than Benn.

              Hagler said himself, 16 years ago on British television, that Benn was a harder hitter than he ever was.

              I see you've added in the word "exceptional" now, I thought you just meant that any old southpaw could beat Benn (which is how it came across).

              What advantages would Benn have over Hagler? I think his defence is sharper (1992-1994) than an old Hagler's, I think he's an awkward body puncher that Hagler didn't really come up against, and I think he punches harder.. but yes I think his lack of consistent concentration may let him down against an old Hagler's monster pressure.
              Last edited by JUYJUY; 08-05-2005, 03:49 PM.

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              • barryboy
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                #57
                Sugar Boy Malinga showed on 2 occasions that a good long range boxer who stays on the outside would give Benn nightmares so Hagler being just that would either beat Benn in the later rounds or points. It's one thing outboxing Henry Wharton but Hagler's a different league all together and if he tried to outbox him I think he'd get widely outscored, Benn's best chance would be to go hell for leather and try to outwork Hagler while looking to land the big shot & at 160 you have to give Benn a punchers chance with anyone but if you wanted an antidote to that big punch it's Hagler's jaw so it has to be Hagler for me.

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                • SliqueJab
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                  #58
                  Hagler would have knock out Benn. Benn is a warrior something that you don't expect from fighter coming from Britain but his chin is weaker then his heart. Benn win against McClellan was a career defining win that's why I place him in my top 20 middlewight, most American critics overlook him. Benn is a big puncher and pretty well rounded skills. I think the problem with Benn if he fought somebody like Hagler was he would resort to his power than box and that's what I think he's gonna get knock out. Hagler can take Hearns punch so he would take Benn as well.

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                  • gnostic19
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                    #59
                    Hagler is one of my all-time favs...but i hinestly don't know if i ever saw him fight in his prime. The earliest Hagler fight i remember was against Minter(that was before auntofermo...right?). But according to JUYJUY this was not a hagler in his prime. What Fights did hAGler have in his prime that i could find on tape somewhere?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by gnostic19
                      Hagler is one of my all-time favs...but i hinestly don't know if i ever saw him fight in his prime. The earliest Hagler fight i remember was against Minter(that was before auntofermo...right?). But according to JUYJUY this was not a hagler in his prime. What Fights did hAGler have in his prime that i could find on tape somewhere?
                      In my opinion, Hagler was at his best when he was younger and sharper as a counter-puncher rather than an all-out slugger. I honestly believe that the Hagler of around 1977-1978 would soundly beat the Hagler that toppled Mugabi.

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