Mayweather Promotions and "OST"

[VoodooChild]

yea but thats only if commisions do it floyd aint paying for all of boxing to get tested

Why doesn't he at least start with his own promotion! He spends more money at clubs and on ipods.

[Vasyl’s dad]

I understand that OST is year round, but from the onset, Ellerbe stated that wanted OST for that specific fight. That was made clear from the jump. They didn't say "we're participating in OST at all times." They were at least clear about that type of testing being used for the time period between what would have been the press tour, training, and after fight.

Clearly, it didn't backfire because now there's speculation surrounding Pacquiao's most recent achievements and there' no escaping the fact that Pacquiao openly said no to random testing when athletes in the NFL and MLB aren't allowed to reject testing, and international competitors are obligated to test as well.

As I stated before, OST is expensive. What makes you think that the Texas State Athletic Commission would want to pay for Keith Debow to participate in the USADA protocol.

Mayweather's not the first to request random testing. Back in 2007, Zab Judah requested random testing of Shane Mosley but Mosley wouldn't agree to it. A couple weeks later, Judah injured his arm and pulled out of the fight.

That alone makes the whole thing null and void.

People can't just select when they want to be tested, which is exactly what the Mayweather camp is doing.

[Pullcounter]

I checked the Mayweather promotions website and there is no mention of sponsored testing for their stable of fighters. I don't get it wasn't it Floyd's mission to clean up the sport? Why wouldn't he start with his very own promotion. He's spent more money on watches, rings and "making it rain" in the clubs than this would cost. Why hasn't he done it?

Floyd Mayweather, Dion Savage, Ouali Said and Jesse Vargas; all fighters under Mayweather promotions and none of them INCLUDING FLOYD do year round true OST testing. Somethings up here, what happened to Floyd's cause to clean up the sport that he loves?

[deejd]

funny that pacquiao has always agreed to testing, and floyd's sheep inbred blind followers keep preaching "HE DOESNT WANT TO DO TESTS".

now that 7 days apparently isn't good. i still honestly don't understand again why pacquiao should even agree to extra testing to begin with. just because someone felt like it? the biggest compromise is even agreeing to it. i mean you run your mouth saying you'll whoop a little midget for an easy night's work, then why not fight the damn midget?

paint it the way you want but anyone with a brain knows this whole OSDT is a joke. funny how he goes on racist tirades yet no mention of drug testing. really pathetic when you go on vacation to duck a fight then run your mouth when the other guy signs a fight.

I wouldnt be surprised if he'd prefer jailtime than risk getting beatdown. after all, he has his money and his 0

So if Pacquiao wants a 7 day cut off date and three days before the fight, there's a random test being administered to Pacquiao, he says no right? Good post.

[deejd]

you don't get it ... These are NOT OST rules. Floyd fans say that Manny needs to follow OST rules as that is the only acceptable way to actually test an athlete. You can't only test and stop at 14 days or 7 days ...... right?

Those are the rules. Once you stray from the rules then it becomes a negotiation and NOT OST rules. Right?

So why is it that when Floyd strays from OST that it's OK but when Manny does it it's because of your points (a, b or c). Kind of doesn't make sense, right?

So if you agree to the above then for Floyd to say 14 days or Manny to say 7 days is part of a negotiation and nothing more (not OST). So then stop complaining that Manny doesn't want to agree to OST ... since Floyd doesn't either.

I said it in another thread that if Manny was on PEDs, I would be the first to discredit his accomplishments ....

BUT you guys NEVER brought this up BEFORE Floyd brought it up nor do you have EVIDENCE. It's like you can't believe nor can Floyd's team believe that there are others that can have skills and dominate too.

Pacquiao's camp proposed the cutoff date... so from there it just becomes testing right? If that's your argument than gee, it looks like Mayweather conceded OST testing to Pacquiao in the first negotiation and Pacquiao still didn't agree.

If you want direct quotes, then you'd make a point that Mayweather requested "full random testing", not OST, but "full random testing" after he swept his compromise of meeting in the middle of Pacquiao's 30 day cutoff.

I specifically remember Ellerbe stating they wanted Olympic Style Testing at the jump back in Nov. '09. If you can recall though, ever since cutoff dates were mentioned by Pacquiao's team, Mayweather's team, Tygart, and Conte have all emphasized random, random, testing. That's been the main goal in order to get this fight made.

Your main point makes no sense here and it falters because Mayweather has participated in random testing himself. When you listened to Pacquiao and his team, the even call the style of testing requested from Mayweather, random.

Is it okay for Mayweather to go away from OST? Of course, it's already been conceded when cutoff dates were proposed. Why is it wrong for Pacquiao to reject the style of testing? Pacquiao provides speculation in his responses and actions to what even his team calls, random testing.

You're talking about OST, when Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach are talking about cutoff dates. Would you agree that Mayweather requesting random testing is meeting in the middle of OST and set, pre-informed dates of drug testing? Thanks for recognizing another concession was made by Mayweather, sign it.

[deejd]

That alone makes the whole thing null and void.

People can't just select when they want to be tested, which is exactly what the Mayweather camp is doing.

People can't just select when they want to be tested
People can't just select when they want to be tested
People can't just select when they want to be tested

So with that being said, Pacquiao has never agreed since he proposed cutoff dates. Awesome job, guy.

[VoodooChild]

yea but thats only if commisions do it floyd aint paying for all of boxing to get tested

Why doesn't he start with his own promotion; He spends more money on ipods FFS.

[VoodooChild]

Pacquiao's camp proposed the cutoff date... so from there it just becomes testing right? If that's your argument than gee, it looks like Mayweather conceded OST testing to Pacquiao in the first negotiation and Pacquiao still didn't agree.

If you want direct quotes, then you'd make a point that Mayweather requested "full random testing", not OST, but "full random testing" after he swept his compromise of meeting in the middle of Pacquiao's 30 day cutoff.

I specifically remember Ellerbe stating they wanted Olympic Style Testing at the jump back in Nov. '09. If you can recall though, ever since cutoff dates were mentioned by Pacquiao's team, Mayweather's team, Tygart, and Conte have all emphasized random, random, testing. That's been the main goal in order to get this fight made.

Your main point makes no sense here and it falters because Mayweather has participated in random testing himself. When you listened to Pacquiao and his team, the even call the style of testing requested from Mayweather, random.

Is it okay for Mayweather to go away from OST? Of course, it's already been conceded when cutoff dates were proposed. Why is it wrong for Pacquiao to reject the style of testing? Pacquiao provides speculation in his responses and actions to what even his team calls, random testing.

You're talking about OST, when Pacquiao, Arum, and Roach are talking about cutoff dates. Would you agree that Mayweather requesting random testing is meeting in the middle of OST and set, pre-informed dates of drug testing? Thanks for recognizing another concession was made by Mayweather, sign it.

Why did Mayweather request random testing for this fight? Why hasn't he instituted it for his stable of fighters and anyone fighting on his cards? He has the money, he spends more at the clubs than this would cost. Why isn't he doing year round OST's now?