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  • RichardP
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    #31
    How the fawk is Nonito Donaire p4p??? I dont see anything to claim he is even all that GOOD, hes been for 10 years now back from 117 to 111, how is this P4P???? HOW, also his fights dont impress me? Is this some promotion gone wrong?

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    • Sugar Sting Ray
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      #32
      Manny Pacquiao
      Sergio Martinez
      Floyd Mayweather
      Paul Williams
      Juan Manuel Marquez
      Miguel Cotto
      Nonito Donaire
      Wonjongkam
      Montiel
      Yuriyoki Gamboa

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      • Steak
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        #33
        meh, not much to go by, is there? Really just arent that many dominating guys around.

        1. Pacquiao
        2. Mayweather
        3. Marquez
        4. Adamek
        5. Martinez
        6. Williams
        7. Wladimir
        8. Caballero
        9. Montiel
        10. Ward/Cotto

        I flat out dont understand why Donaire is top 10 when his best win is over Darchinyan years ago.

        Adamek may seem a little high, but lets be honest here: hes not the most impressive fighter out there, but hes gone from Light Heavyweight titlist to the best at Cruiserweight now to top 5 at Heavyweight. he deserves his spot on p4p lists, and high too.

        I was kind of iffy about putting Ward and Caballero up, but because Caballero has been on such a long undefeated streak and many fighters have been ducking him...ah well.
        Ward is imo the best fighter at 168lbs(at the present moment) with his dominant win over Kessler. his wins over Miranda and Green are decent as well, and he also has not had a controversial fight in his career unlike Bute.(although its close)

        Bradley I considered, he has decent wins, but imo hes not even as accomplished as Khan, and it seems premature to put him in p4p lists.

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        • ИATAS
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          #34
          Originally posted by blackirish137

          I flat out dont understand why Donaire is top 10 when his best win is over Darchinyan years ago.
          Donaire shouldn't be penalized because other guys are blatantly ducking him. That's my whole thing, Donaire is dominating everyone he fights and the other top guys won't even step in the ring with him.

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          • jrosales13
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            #35
            1. Manny Pacquaio
            2. Floyd Mayweather
            3. Juan Manuel Marquez
            4. Fernando Montiel
            5. Paul Williams
            6. Sergio Martinez
            7. Timothy Bradley
            8. Pongsaklek Wonjongkam
            9. Anselmo Moreno
            10. Tomasz Adamek

            On the cusp Ward, Lopez, Donaire, W. Klitshcko, Caballero, Cotto, Dawson, Pascal, Segura, Bute.

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              #36
              Originally posted by S.G.
              1. Mayweather
              2. Pacquiao
              3. Williams
              4. Martinez
              5. Montiel
              6. Wlad Klitschko
              7. Wonjongkam
              8. J.M. Marquez
              9. Moreno
              10. Segura

              Caballero, Dirrell, Bradley and Ward could have each justifiably been #10 too.
              Nice

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              • Bastian Loc
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                #37
                1)Manny
                2)JMM
                3)Martinez
                4)Vitali
                5)Wladimir
                6)Rafa
                7)Cotto
                8)Caba
                9)Juanma
                10)Adamek

                Whats the deal with Wongjonkam being on all these lists? Does the guy ever fight anymore?

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  No Montiel???



                  1. Mayweather
                  2. Williams
                  3. Pacquiao
                  4. Marquez
                  5. Ward
                  6. Montiel
                  7. Martinez
                  8. Wlad
                  9. The Pong
                  10. Lopez
                  Originally posted by No Ceilings
                  I base it off Pacs lackluster 2010 campaign.
                  I guess.... If you going to use that lame excuse as your reason then fine but I personally would have at least waited to see if P-Will could repeat the win over Martinez before putting him up ahead of Pac.

                  But, whatever.........

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                  • Bastian Loc
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by S.G.
                    1. Mayweather
                    2. Pacquiao
                    3. Williams
                    4. Martinez
                    5. Montiel
                    6. Wlad Klitschko
                    7. Wonjongkam
                    8. J.M. Marquez
                    9. Moreno
                    10. Segura

                    Caballero, Dirrell, Bradley and Ward could have each justifiably been #10 too.
                    I was tempted to put Segura in but didn't because I think he needs to keep winning. Left out Montiel cuz' he's too inactive for my tastes.

                    Left out everyone at 140 cuz' I think they're all glorified prospects. Left out 168 cuz' they need to finish that tourney and let the dust settle, though if I had to pick one guy it would be Bute.

                    Donaire is good, but also too inactive and content being inactive.

                    And I gotta be honest, I've never seen Moreno fight so I can't include him.

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                    • jrosales13
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by INSECT
                      1)Manny
                      2)JMM
                      3)Martinez
                      4)Vitali
                      5)Wladimir
                      6)Rafa
                      7)Cotto
                      8)Caba
                      9)Juanma
                      10)Adamek

                      Whats the deal with Wongjonkam being on all these lists? Does the guy ever fight anymore?
                      Considering Wonjongkam has 2 wins this year and one of them was against the top rated Flyweight to win back the WBC, and lineal flyweight championship. Also winning the vacant ring flyweight title. And, that he has another fight coming up next month.

                      I would say yes he is still fighting. What do you think?
                      Last edited by jrosales13; 09-23-2010, 12:25 PM.

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