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  • Bastian Loc
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    #71
    Originally posted by miron_lang
    1. Erick Morales
    2. Barrera
    3. Marquez


    - Marquez can overtake them if he wins a belt @140 IMO



    [Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

    Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
    Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
    Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
    Chavez --------Tapia ----------Medina
    Zaragoza ------Salud ----------Gainer
    Chi -------------- Ayala ---------Juarez
    Hernandez----- Juarez ----------Peden
    McCullough-----A. Sanchez------Salido
    Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo
    JMM is older than all of them.

    When he fought Casa he was 35. Don't sit there and pretend he was in his mid 20's picking on old guys.

    He was an old guy himself.

    He was an old guy when he pwned Pac in the rematch back in 2008.

    He's been an old guy kicking ass for a while now and not getting credit from bitter *******s.


    Give credit *******s. Its not his fault he owned Packy 2x.

    Thats just the fact of the matter.

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    • TOBYLEE1
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      #72
      Three great fighters but have to give a slight edge to Barrera.

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      • MARKBNLV
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        #73
        Originally posted by INSECT
        Not only would Barrera and Morales lose to Katsidis at any weight, but they would never even stand a chance in hell at defeating a young gun like Katsidis at 37 years of age.

        You crybabies could hang your hat at what those guys did at 22 and 26, but JMM went all the way to 35 and continues to pwn.


        Thats what happens when you're the most naturally skilled and gifted out of the three.
        I disagree big time Katsidas is nothing special he is just the modern version of Gatti,and the reason Marquez is still in top form at 37 is due to his defensive style,Morales and Barrera were show men and put there bodies and lifes on the line every time they stepped into the ring.

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        • -Rab
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          #74
          That dumb ****ing white guy Jack ignores me yet again, Pathetic. Of course JMM has lasted longer than EM and MAB...He fought bums ALL OF HIS CAREER. Wow an OLD ASS CASAMAYOR and FAT BABY BULL are considered better wins than the ones EM and MAB got? LMFAO

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            #75
            Originally posted by MARKBNLV
            I disagree big time Katsidas is nothing special he is just the modern version of Gatti,and the reason Marquez is still in top form at 37 is due to his defensive style,Morales and Barrera were show men and put there bodies and lifes on the line every time they stepped into the ring.
            He's special when he's 30 and you're 37.

            You better believe that.

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              #76
              Originally posted by rabagiyo
              That dumb ****ing white guy Jack ignores me yet again, Pathetic. Of course JMM has lasted longer than EM and MAB...He fought bums ALL OF HIS CAREER. Wow an OLD ASS CASAMAYOR and FAT BABY BULL are considered better wins than the ones EM and MAB got? LMFAO
              Why the race sht rab no need for that.

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                #77
                Originally posted by INSECT
                He's special when he's 30 and you're 37.

                You better believe that.
                Some fighters age better look at Bhop or Glen Johnson they got better near there 40s.

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                  #78
                  Originally posted by MARKBNLV
                  Why the race sht rab no need for that.
                  White guy is being racist?

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                  • miron_lang
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by INSECT
                    JMM is older than all of them.

                    When he fought Casa he was 35. Don't sit there and pretend he was in his mid 20's picking on old guys.

                    He was an old guy himself.

                    He was an old guy when he pwned Pac in the rematch back in 2008.

                    He's been an old guy kicking ass for a while now and not getting credit from bitter *******s.


                    Give credit *******s. Its not his fault he owned Packy 2x.

                    Thats just the fact of the matter.
                    All those BS doesnt matter. We're talking about who is the best among the 3 fighters right?

                    and how do we determine that? we look at the fighters they beat and that's it. We determine purely on resume to be as objective as we can be.

                    Its very hard to argue if we lay down the data mate. cmon. there's no opinion on this.

                    Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

                    Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
                    Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
                    Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
                    Chavez --------Tapia ----------Medina
                    Zaragoza ------Salud ----------Gainer
                    Chi -------------- Ayala ---------Juarez
                    Hernandez----- Juarez ----------Peden
                    McCullough-----A. Sanchez------Salido
                    Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo

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                    • Bastian Loc
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by miron_lang
                      All those BS doesnt matter. We're talking about who is the best among the 3 fighters right?

                      and how do we determine that? we look at the fighters they beat and that's it. We determine purely on resume to be as objective as we can be.

                      Its very hard to argue if we lay down the data mate. cmon. there's no opinion on this.

                      Morales-------Barrera------Marquez

                      Pacquiao(27)----Hamed-------Barrera(33)
                      Barrera ---------Morales--------Cassamayor(37)
                      Jones ----------McKinney-------J.Diaz
                      Chavez --------Tapia ----------Medina
                      Zaragoza ------Salud ----------Gainer
                      Chi -------------- Ayala ---------Juarez
                      Hernandez----- Juarez ----------Peden
                      McCullough-----A. Sanchez------Salido
                      Ayala -----------Peden ----------Polo
                      It does matter because your "data" assumes JMM is the same age as the other two. You highlight this by including Barrera and Casa's age in Marquez' resume as if JMM picked on some old guys when he was in his prime.

                      When in FACT, he was older than Barrera when he whooped him and only 2 years younger than Casa.

                      Your chart gets nothing from me.

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