Comments Thread For: Golden Boy, Top Rank Prepare For Major Legal Battle

[edgarg]

I am not a lawyer but sure it won' go down like that. Manny signing
to two different promotional companies just shows how wrong he was.
What I believe is that Top Rank owes Golden money and they want
to get paid because Manny has made MILLIONS. Honestly, that case
Pac filed aginst Golden Boy and the Mayweathers is baby doo doo.
To me, that was just to take the look off of Manny not agreeing to
take the tests. Top Rank owes money and it hasn't been paid in a
long time.

Gee whizz Grustler, are you as simpleminded as all that> I've seen other posts by you which says differently, but such baby pap....my oh my. You're going to have to give up the lollipops for sure, too much sugar as bad for the brain.

[ThePrince]

So you've come to the conclusion that since GBP is a multi-million dollar corporation, they don't care about wasting money on unnecessary lawyer fees? Rates raise depending on the status of the lawyer. Lawyer fees can quickly go through the roof with a lawyer the level and profile of Bernstein.

No, you claimed that GBP tried to dismiss the case only because they didn't want to pay legal fees. I'm telling you they tried, and failed TWICE, to get the case dismissed because they don't want to fork over $5 mil. They could care less about lawyer fees, it's the multi-million dollar penalty they would have to pay that's their concern.

The courts not dismissing it, just means that there's enough evidence to take it to court, not that there's enough evidence to prove the case is winnable.

Evidence to prove the case is winnable... what the hell are you talking about? Nevada's district court would not waste time on a case they feel a plaintiff can't win. Again, TWICE, the district court judge ruled that the case was valid/winnable and allowed it to proceed. Even allowed depositions to be taken. GBP has since stopped trying to get the case dismissed because it is going to trial.

All they have is media quotes, but how will they prove that GBP knew Pacquiao wasn't/isn't on steroids was false information? How can you prove they did it with malicious intent? Tell Ronnie to get on the stand and convince a jury that not only did Schaefer insinuate Pacwas on PEDs, but he knew it was a false accusation that he was maliciously spreading.

Again, DLH blatantly compared Pacquiao's punches to those of proven PED cheats in The Ring magazine. Schaefer submitted a 3-page account of why he thinks Pacquiao is on PEDs. What other intent would DLH have for comparing Pacquiao to Mosley and Vargas, or Schaefer giving 3-pages worth of notes on Pac being on PEDs if it wasn't malicious? Was it to raise drug awareness? Speaking of which, why did they target only Pac for their USADA experiment on not make it madatory for ALL GBP fights? That shows they singled out someone who had no history of PED use (unlike Mosley) and that's backed up by the fact that no one else without a history of PED was ever asked to submit to the tests... and Mosley just fought again w/o OSTD. And Ronnie can take the stand once the trial date comes.

Lol at the bolded,just lulz. There is no exchange, GBP's lawsuit is worth at least 100s of thousands more than Pacquiao's defamation suit because Pacquiao's is worth -0 because he's just spending lawyer fees and won't recoup. They won't be able to prove a thing beyond the statements, unless Hoya, Schaefer or one of the higher ups in Golden Boy admits that they knew he wasn't on anything, either that or if witnesses can convince a jury that they know that Hoya and co. knew he wasn't on anything and maliciously spread the false info.

A) The lawsuit Pac filed against GBP (DLH and Schaefer) is in excess of $5 million, so stop with that GBP's lawsui is worth at least blah blah blah... it's in the court documents. $5 mil.

B) GBP obviously didn't know Pac was on anything because whenever they were asked (Mayweathers included) why they claimed he was or how they would know.... nothing. Pac never failed a test, was never linked to PEDs before Floyd Sr started ranting, nothing exists that links Pac to any PED beyond the claims of the people now being sued. So they spread lies, that tarnished Pacquiao's brand/reputation, without any evidence to back it up... how is that not a malicious act?

[OnePunch]

i feel sorry for anyone who bought the mosley mora ppv which ended up putting most people to sleep\

Oh, but Pacquiao-Clottey was a thrill a minute?? lol

[OnePunch]

Funny that Manny's lawsuit against Schaefer and DLH is for $5 million. This is more or less a counter-suit, which will be counter-suited by TR when they push for sole promotional rights to Pac's career since GBP did not act in their partial client's best interest and potentially hurt him financially and damaged his reputation with their baseless PED accusations.

In the end, this whole issue will probably go to mediation and be settled out of court- something along the lines of both sides drop their lawsuit (but Manny still pursues the Mayweathers in court) and GBP's promotional stake in Pac ends. But if GBP goes forward with both cases in court, look for TR to at least get GBP out of the Manny sweepstakes and Schaefer/DLH to cough up $5 mil to Manny.

Irrelevant. Unlike managers, a promoter has no fiduciary duty to the fighter. They can say or do whatever they want..........

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Oh, but Pacquiao-Clottey was a thrill a minute?? lol

there is a big difference, mosley is a washed up shot fighter fighting a club fighter reality show contestant in mora while pac is arguably the number one fighter & draw in the sport.

[OnePunch]

Pacquiao and Arum owned Golden Boy.

Good job Pac and Arum

bwahahahahahahahahahahaha

Hmmmm. let me think about this for a moment........

Pac got $300k in a duffle bag from GBP, and had to give it back. Meanwhile, GBP, with ZERO investment, makes millions off Pacquiao fights.

Yep. thats ownage alright.......... *smh*

[Eastbay Giant]

No, you claimed that GBP tried to dismiss the case only because they didn't want to pay legal fees. I'm telling you they tried, and failed TWICE, to get the case dismissed because they don't want to fork over $5 mil. They could care less about lawyer fees, it's the multi-million dollar penalty they would have to pay that's their concern.



Evidence to prove the case is winnable... what the hell are you talking about? Nevada's district court would not waste time on a case they feel a plaintiff can't win. Again, TWICE, the district court judge ruled that the case was valid/winnable and allowed it to proceed. Even allowed depositions to be taken. GBP has since stopped trying to get the case dismissed because it is going to trial.

When Pacquiao went from saying he doesn't like needles, to giving blood makes him weak, and refusing a contractual request for both parties to undergo WADA drug testing for a March 13th fight, to then refusing the fight, and finally filing a law suit is what tarnished his brand, not the Mayweathers or GBP. He has only himself to blame.


Again, DLH blatantly compared Pacquiao's punches to those of proven PED cheats in The Ring magazine. Schaefer submitted a 3-pge account of why he thinks Pacquiao is on PEDs. What other intent would DLH have for comparing Pacquiao to Mosley and Vargas, or Schaefer giving 3-pages worth of notes on Pac being on PEDs if it wasn't malicious? Was it to raise drug awareness? Speaking of which, why did they target only Pac for their USADA experiment on not make it madatory for ALL GBP fights? That shows they singled out someone who had no history of PED use (unlike Mosley) and that's backed up by the fact that no one else without a history of PED was ever asked to submit to the tests... and Mosley just fought again w/o OSTD. And Ronnie can take the stand once the trial date comes.

First of all, the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency agreed that they won’t take blood from the fighters 48 hours before the fight as some people seem to think. They’re going to take only a few tablespoons through random testing in the three months leading up to the fight.

If Pacquiao, the toughest guy on the planet, is afraid of needles and having a few tablespoons of blood drawn from his system, then something is wrong. The guy has tattoos everywhere; he’s tattooed from top to bottom. You’re telling me he’s afraid of needles?

And the idea that urine tests can detect HGH [Human Growth Hormone] is wrong. I talked to Travis Tygart, CEO of the USADA. He testified before Congress that anyone who says HGH can be detected by a urine test is mistaken. It can only be detected by a blood test.

So you have to do the blood work. If Pacquiao doesn’t want to do this and risk a possible $40 million payday because he’s afraid of needles or believes he’ll be weakened by blood tests, then that raises question marks.

Now I have to wonder about him. I’m saying to myself, “Wow. Those Mosley punches, those Vargas punches and those Pacquiao punches all felt the same.” I’m not saying yes or no [about whether Pacquiao might be taking performance-enhancing drugs]; I’m just saying that now people have to wonder: “Why doesn’t he want to do this? Why is it such a big deal.”

A lot of eyebrows have been raised. This is not good at all.

Oscars statement is an opinion, and not stated as fact.

A) The lawsuit Pac filed against GBP (DLH and Schaefer) is in excess of $5 million, so stop with that GBP's lawsui is worth at least blah blah blah... it's in the court documents. $5 mil.

He can sue for 100 mil, but the burden of proof will still be Pacquiaos to prove how his brand/reputation was tarnished after refusing to sign a $40 mil contract for March 13th, and submit to random drug testing of both fighters.


B) GBP obviously didn't know Pac was on anything because whenever they were asked (Mayweathers included) why they claimed he was or how they would know.... nothing. Pac never failed a test, was never linked to PEDs before Floyd Sr started ranting, nothing exists that links Pac to any PED beyond the claims of the people now being sued. So they spread lies, that tarnished Pacquiao's brand/reputation, without any evidence to back it up... how is that not a malicious act?

Again...

When Pacquiao went from saying he doesn't like needles, to giving blood makes him weak, and refusing a contractual request for both parties to undergo WADA drug testing for a March 13th fight, to then refusing the fight, and finally filing a law suit is what tarnished his brand, not the Mayweathers or GBP. He has only himself to blame.

[Tweezy316]

there is a big difference, mosley is a washed up shot fighter fighting a club fighter reality show contestant in mora while pac is arguably the number one fighter & draw in the sport.

You can't argue that Pac is the biggest draw in the sport. Look forget your feelings towards Pac. NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!! He doesn't have the biggest gates or the most ppv's. So forget about your feelings.

[GRUSTLER]

Gee whizz Grustler, are you as simpleminded as all that> I've seen other posts by you which says differently, but such baby pap....my oh my. You're going to have to give up the lollipops for sure, too much sugar as bad for the brain.

Why are you so extra with it? Baby doo doo is in reference to
the case being soft.

[jltsmae]

And this guy is governor. Sad country that is.

governor arnold swazeneger?