Floyd Sr. and McGirt have dissapeared lol

[Viciousz]

no he's not. on both points.

not even close.

He is a master of teaching it, watch Guzman-Soto and all of Jr.'s fight. He is on the same level as Roach except he doesn't train as many fighters.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

First of all I'm talking Sr. not Roger. Anyways what I meant was to say with the Arcel comparasion is that for a trainer to get credit for a fighter he doesn't have to train him from scratch.

arcel trained many great fighters. roger & sr. only have floyd jr. even if you include oscar, that's what 2?

horrible comparison.

[Viciousz]

arcel trained many great fighters. roger & sr. only have floyd jr. even if you include oscar, that's what 2?

horrible comparison.

Don't you get my point? Can't you read? I said a trainer doesn't have to train a fighter from scratch to receive credit.

[Heru]

Guzman was already a beast before joining Sr. for a couple fights. The simple answer to your question is that Floyd Sr. is an assh0le. After most fighters have 1 training camp with him, they realize it and move on. Mayweather Jr., Guzman, Dawson, Hatton, and I know I'm missing others that couldn't stand his ass, the last 3 could only be with him for 3 fights

Buddy showed how much he ****** with Malignaggi. From what I saw, he basically had Malignaggi not use his above average footwork and footspeed and to try to jab and counterpunch while being flat footed. It's the reason why he was looking terrible against the one dimensional style brawlers he was supposed to do good against. Buddy McGirt has a long list of ruining fighters.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Don't you get my point? Can't you read? I said a trainer doesn't have to train a fighter from scratch to receive credit.

no i dont get your point because your point doesnt make sense. arcel trained MANY GREAT FIGHTERS. roger & sr. only have 1 (2 if you include oscar).

Do you know what many means? 18 world champions. Roger & sr. only have 1 (2 if you include oscar). Multiple. You're the one that used ray arcel as a comparison. Not me.

Se habla english?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Guzman was already a beast before joining Sr. for a couple fights. The simple answer to your question is that Floyd Sr. is an assh0le. After most fighters have 1 training camp with him, they realize it and move on. Mayweather Jr., Guzman, Dawson, Hatton, and I know I'm missing others that couldn't stand his ass, the last 3 could only be with him for 3 fights

Buddy showed how much he ****** with Malignaggi. From what I saw, he basically had Malignaggi not use his above average footwork and footspeed and to try to jab and counterpunch while being flat footed. It's the reason why he was looking terrible against the one dimensional style brawlers he was supposed to do good against. Buddy McGirt has a long list of ruining fighters.

thank you....

[Viciousz]

Guzman was already a beast before joining Sr. for a couple fights. The simple answer to your question is that Floyd Sr. is an assh0le. After most fighters have 1 training camp with him, they realize it and move on. Mayweather Jr., Guzman, Dawson, Hatton, and I know I'm missing others that couldn't stand his ass, the last 3 could only be with him for 3 fights

Buddy showed how much he ****** with Malignaggi. From what I saw, he basically had Malignaggi not use his above average footwork and footspeed and to try to jab and counterpunch while being flat footed. It's the reason why he was looking terrible against the one dimensional style brawlers he was supposed to do good against. Buddy McGirt has a long list of ruining fighters.

Sr. might suck as a professional but he gets the job done. What I don't get about McGirt is how he had Malignaggi training to fight on the inside, that like training Chavez Sr. to be Willie Pep.

[Viciousz]

no i dont get your point because your point doesnt make sense. arcel trained MANY GREAT FIGHTERS. roger & sr. only have 1 (2 if you include oscar).

Do you know what many means? 18 world champions. Roger & sr. only have 1 (2 if you include oscar). Multiple. You're the one that used ray arcel as a comparison. Not me.

Se habla english?

Your fuckin' ******ed, I'm not making a direct comparison to Arcel and Sr. Im making a comparison how a trainer doesn't have to train a fighter from the ground up to receive credit. How many times do I have to tell your ignorant illitirate ass that?

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Sr. might suck as a professional but he gets the job done. What I don't get about McGirt is how he had Malignaggi training to fight on the inside, that like training Chavez Sr. to be Willie Pep.

Guzman was already a beast before joining Sr. for a couple fights. The simple answer to your question is that Floyd Sr. is an assh0le. After most fighters have 1 training camp with him, they realize it and move on. Mayweather Jr., Guzman, Dawson, Hatton, and I know I'm missing others that couldn't stand his ass, the last 3 could only be with him for 3 fights

Buddy showed how much he ****** with Malignaggi. From what I saw, he basically had Malignaggi not use his above average footwork and footspeed and to try to jab and counterpunch while being flat footed. It's the reason why he was looking terrible against the one dimensional style brawlers he was supposed to do good against. Buddy McGirt has a long list of ruining fighters.

it doesnt matter who trained malignaggi for hatton. he wasnt beating a top 10 p4p fighter because malignaggi is barely a above average fighter who in his best possible prime was a glorified gatekeeper. hatton was too strong & aggressive of a fighter for malignaggi who is not a great enough boxer to finesse to a points decision like a juan diaz who is not as strong as a hatton.

[Ragnar Lothbrok]

Your fuckin' ******ed, I'm not making a direct comparison to Arcel and Sr. Im making a comparison how a trainer doesn't have to train a fighter from the ground up to receive credit. How many times do I have to tell your ignorant illitirate ass that?

this is your original post:

That was Guzman's nutrionists fault. And Guzman was 3 pounds overweight and when Lee Beard trained him he was 9 pounds overweight. It's not really Sr.'s fault he came in to training camp at about 180. They might not have raised someone from the ground up to a champ other then Jr. but hey look at Ray Arcel, he came in to be Durans trainer beforet he Buchanan fight and he polished him. Same as how Sr. polished Guzman (especially the Soto fight) and De La Hoya.

now tell me who are the other fighters other than floyd jr. that roger & sr. "polished" like a ray arcel who "polished" many great fighters unlike roger & sr.