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  • Originally posted by timba View Post
    We'll have to wait and see.

    Khan is capable of outboxing Maidana to a UD, or stopping him in fact -
    (Maidana doesn't have the best chin, and Khan hits fast enough, and hard enough to knock him down a few times).

    On the other hand, Khan's chin hasn't been tested since the Prescott fight, and he will need to watch out for Maidana's wide looping power shots. If he doesn't it could be an early night for him. However, the later the fight goes, the more it will play in to Khan's hands. Maidana doesn't have great stamina, and if the fight goes past 6, Khan's jab is going to rip through Maidana's lax guard and do some damage. If I was Maidana, I would go for broke in the first 6 rounds, because he will not beat Khan in a boxing match, and will not have the stamina or speed to keep up with Khan after the mid-way point.

    I have this a 60-40 fight in favour of Khan. His chin is still a huge question mark. I don't want him to trade with Maidana, but I would love it if he took a few good shots and didn't show any signs of being seriously hurt. Because Amir Khan with a good defence, and decent chin, is p4p material.
    60-40 in Khans favor sounds about right, if Maidana comes into the Khan fight like he did for the Corley fight then its more like 70-30 in Khans favor.

    Im sure Maidana will be in top shape this time, ( i know he should have been against Corley but for some reason he wasn't) But if i was Khan i would want to end the fight quick because if this fight goes into the 6th round then surely Khan will have been tagged on that Chin atleast once, can he take a shot against Maidana?.

    Thats what makes the fight so interesting, yes Khan should have too much speed and skill but it only takes one shot from El Chino and it could change the fight, i really hope the fight gets made.
    Last edited by shenmue; 09-11-2010, 02:32 PM.

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    • Originally posted by timba View Post
      We'll have to wait and see.

      Khan is capable of outboxing Maidana to a UD, or stopping him in fact -
      (Maidana doesn't have the best chin, and Khan hits fast enough, and hard enough to knock him down a few times).

      On the other hand, Khan's chin hasn't been tested since the Prescott fight, and he will need to watch out for Maidana's wide looping power shots. If he doesn't it could be an early night for him. However, the later the fight goes, the more it will play in to Khan's hands. Maidana doesn't have great stamina, and if the fight goes past 6, Khan's jab is going to rip through Maidana's lax guard and do some damage. If I was Maidana, I would go for broke in the first 6 rounds, because he will not beat Khan in a boxing match, and will not have the stamina or speed to keep up with Khan after the mid-way point.

      I have this a 60-40 fight in favour of Khan. His chin is still a huge question mark. I don't want him to trade with Maidana, but I would love it if he took a few good shots and didn't show any signs of being seriously hurt. Because Amir Khan with a good defence, and decent chin, is p4p material.
      Most of what you say is fair, and I agree with the 60/40 bit, but I think you're completely wrong about the stamina. Maidana's stamina was fine in the last few rounds against Kotelnik. Against Corley, he clearly hadn't trained properly and was unfit. You can bet your life he'll be fully trained for the Khan fight. OTOH, although Khan dominated most of the Kotelnik fight, he looked decidedly gassed in the last two rounds, and if Kotelnik had a big punch, which he doesn't, Khan would have been in serious trouble in the last round.

      Although it's true that Khan is likely to outbox Maidana for long stretches, Maidana's best chance is not to throw everything into the early rounds and risk punching himself out. He's an effective pressure fighter, and provided he's fit, his best hope is to constantly try to cut the ring off, try to bully Khan into the ropes, keep up a decent workrate - especially to the body - without punching himself out, and wait for an opening, which is bound to come his way sooner or later. Then when the opening does come, it'll be Khan's moment of truth. If Maidana uses those tactics, you can bet your life Khan will be hurt at some stage of the fight, and then we'll see whether his powers of recovery have improved under Roach's tutelage, and whether he can hold on effectively until his head has cleared. If he can, he'll win. If he can't, he'll lose.
      Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-11-2010, 02:35 PM.

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      • Originally posted by shenmue View Post
        But if i was Khan i would want to end the fight quick.
        Trying to end the fight quickly against a big puncher was where he went wrong against Prescott. Khan's only hope is to try to box from the outside and go for a UD. If an opening comes to test Maidana's chin, he should take it, but he can't afford to go looking for a knock-out from the get-go. That would be suicidal.

        Also, Maidana has fantastic powers of recovery and huge heart. If Khan manages to knock Maidana down, that will be a very dangerous moment for Khan, because if he then goes all out for the knock-out, he's likely to be knocked out himself.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 09-11-2010, 02:42 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
          Trying to end the fight quickly against a big puncher was where he went wrong against Prescott. Khan's only hope is to try to box from the outside and go for a UD. If an opening comes to test Maidana's chin, he should take it, but he can't afford to go looking for a knock-out from the get-go. That would be suicidal.

          Also, Maidana has fantastic powers of recovery and huge heart. If Khan manages to knock Maidana down, that will be a very dangerous moment for Khan, because if he then goes all out for the knock-out, he's likely to be knocked out himself.
          Your 100% right., i guese i just want to see if Khan can take a big punch at light welterweight.

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          • Originally posted by Medved View Post
            Who cares about **** Flood victims? Pakistam harbors *********s and has tons of muhajadeen schools. Serves them right, I find it funny they were crying to the western world to help them out. Why didnt they cry to al-qaeda for money?

            Khan is just a little boy spoiled on twitter by his nerd loser ******s who have never watched Boxing in their life and think hes got among boys.

            He has done nothing in the sport to start spewing demands like hes modern day Tyson, NOTHING.

            Hes a protected fighter thats SCARED to fight punchers and everyone but his butt hurt fans see that.

            So stop crying about draw and money, what does he want 90/10% split? It doesnt matter what Maidana made last fight, the WBA says its 55/45 split!

            If i was a boxer and the diffirence to make a fight would be 100k I would give it to the guy cuz he gotta eat and then I would go into the ring and prove why im the bext and increase my rates. Instead of doiung that AK is twitter e-thug losing fans by the day.

            THose loser ****** friends of his dont bring him any money so hes really hurting his image.
            What you say is not ture, but what is ture is you don't eat cow meat but I do. Indian

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            • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
              Most of what you say is fair, and I agree with the 60/40 bit, but I think you're completely wrong about the stamina. Maidana's stamina was fine in the last few rounds against Kotelnik. Against Corley, he clearly hadn't trained properly and was unfit. You can bet your life he'll be fully trained for the Khan fight. OTOH, although Khan dominated most of the Kotelnik fight, he looked decidedly gassed in the last two rounds, and if Kotelnik had a big punch, which he doesn't, Khan would have been in serious trouble in the last round.

              Although it's true that Khan is likely to outbox Maidana for long stretches, Maidana's best chance is not to throw everything into the early rounds and risk punching himself out. He's an effective pressure fighter, and provided he's fit, his best hope is to constantly try to cut the ring off, try to bully Khan into the ropes, keep up a decent workrate - especially to the body - without punching himself out, and wait for an opening, which is bound to come his way sooner or later. Then when the opening does come, it'll be Khan's moment of truth. If Maidana uses those tactics, you can bet your life Khan will be hurt at some stage of the fight, and then we'll see whether his powers of recovery have improved under Roach's tutelage, and whether he can hold on effectively until his head has cleared. If he can, he'll win. If he can't, he'll lose.
              This is spot on. There's no doubt that Kahn can outbox Maidana but he won't be able to do it for a full twelve rounds. Maidana is a very hard puncher and he'll hit Kahn every chance he gets how Kahn takes does punches is what will determine if he wins or loses.

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              • Great move by Maidana...

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                • Originally posted by ma51f View Post
                  great news! lets see maidanna try and duck his ay out of this one. after all he's already rejected the fight twice citing wants more money and faked a back injury to avoid bradley
                  STFU....really...

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                  • Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
                    It will almost certainly have to be in the US because there is a much larger purse on offer from HBO if it's in the US than there is if it's in the UK - and if it goes to purse bids, the largest bid always wins, end of story. Khan wanted it to be in the UK so that he could fight in front of his own fans, but he always knew that there would be less money on the table if it was in the UK - GBP stated that explicitly. If it goes to purse bids, he'll have no say in the venue, it will just go to wherever the most money is.



                    You think it's outrageous that he asked for what he's entitled to under the WBA's rules? And after he'd been Khan's mandatory for more than a year? Come down from the clouds and join the real world, you're delusional a hell.
                    Dave, Do you think there is a good chance Frank Warren may make a heavy bid to have the fight in the UK?

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                    • Originally posted by wazaa. View Post
                      Man, Maidiva dioesn't deserve 45-55 man. This guys biggest pay date till date was 350 k. And now he is getting 1 million. Thats like a softcore boxing fan getting ringside tickets to Pacquiao-Mayweather.
                      Dude Khan Is a Bigger Diva Than Marcos......And why do you care about who's making the most money?? are u seeing any of it?? your here talking about These Dudes Pockets like they are paying you....Just be a Fan Of "BOXING".. Relax and Hope the Fight gets Made...

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