Who gets more credit for beating Hatton? Floyd for being the first or Pacquiao?

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  • goldenglove2
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    #91
    Originally posted by King Caesar
    SMH...just proves my point....what does that have to do with anything?
    ok posty # 4.

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    • M.I.C.
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      #92
      Floyd's win was more impressive, after 10 rounds he proved he could dominate Hatton in every area of the game. Even beating Hatton at his own game, inside fighting. Floyd's last 3 fights vs Hatton, JMM, and Mosley are all impressive cause he beats them so easily, even giving them chances that they can't take advantage of.

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      • CUNTLEE
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        #93
        floyd,beat him first took his heart

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        • hugh grant
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          #94
          Originally posted by mannyman
          this is a tough one as the poll proves.

          Mayweather KO'd an undefeated confident Hatton although it wasn't at his optimal weight.

          Pac destroyed Hatton at his optimal whilst he was the lineal JWW champ.

          I'd say Mayweather marginally gets more credit as Hatton was unbeaten.

          This isn't in the poll but Pacs KO was far more impressive and dominant.
          So you say PBF gets more credit on the basis of beating Hatton first? So beating someone unbeaten first is the prerequisite for the best wins.

          So Pac should fight no one but unbeaten fighters now to get above SRR? Everyone is unbeaten at one stage, until they are found out. PBF might always have beaten Hatton, just like Pac would.
          But Pacs win was better. It is not a debate.

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          • hugh grant
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            #95
            People need to clarify just what Pac would have needed to do to get as much credit as Floyd did for beating Hatton!

            Would Pac needed to have whooped hatton in 2 seconds to be equal to Floyd beating Hatton first? Or is it the fact that Floyd beat Hatton first, he will always be a better win? Well if that is the case it is totally biased reasoning and not worth discussing.

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            • LA MIGRA
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              #96
              I give Floyd more credit since Hatton was undefeated at the time.

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                #97
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                People need to clarify just what Pac would have needed to do to get as much credit as Floyd did for beating Hatton!

                Would Pac needed to have whooped hatton in 2 seconds to be equal to Floyd beating Hatton first? Or is it the fact that Floyd beat Hatton first, he will always be a better win? Well if that is the case it is totally biased reasoning and not worth discussing.
                look at undefeated fighters that was great at their prime but become damage goods after they suffer the loss, and this like RJJ,Cotto,Hatton(wasn't great but was good)

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by LA MIGRA
                  I give Floyd more credit since Hatton was undefeated at the time.
                  No, you are joking and being stubborn. You was more impressed with how Pac destroyed hatton and put him to sleep. Hatton was trying to get up to fight PBF still.


                  Originally posted by 1pretty boy1
                  look at undefeated fighters that was great at their prime but become damage goods after they suffer the loss, and this like RJJ,Cotto,Hatton(wasn't great but was good)
                  Some fighters come back better after losing. The hatton that fought Pac was a much better fighter than the one who fought PBF.
                  Hatton just had a bad day at the office against Pac. It happens.

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                  • tredh
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                    #99
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    People need to clarify just what Pac would have needed to do to get as much credit as Floyd did for beating Hatton!

                    Would Pac needed to have whooped hatton in 2 seconds to be equal to Floyd beating Hatton first? Or is it the fact that Floyd beat Hatton first, he will always be a better win? Well if that is the case it is totally biased reasoning and not worth discussing.
                    I believe it was Nasim Richardson who recently said and other trainers have said it before. Something along the lines of "you have to teach and show and undefeated fighter how to lose because it is something that they have never experienced before. Once a fighter is defeated they now know how to lose and the mentality is different." I have heard trainers say something along those lines. I feel most fighters fight hard but when undefeated they have that little extra something because they don't want that "0" to go. That is not to say even after a loss they don't fight hard but its a little more acceptable and easy to take for some because a 1 is already in the loss column.

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                    • tredh
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                      #100
                      The whole story is funny because people talk down on how PBF fights but then want to use weight as a reason as to why Manny's win was better. It don't make sense.

                      I give PBF more credit because I feel he faced a Hatton that was mentally tougher and more determined than the Hatton that Manny faced.

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