is Pacquiao the most over rated boxer in this era?

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    #151
    Haaaaaterrrss..

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #152
      Originally posted by jrosales13
      I can't believe there are really posters who are truly debating that Pac is the most overrated fighter of this era.

      Just ridiculous.

      Honestly think about ALL the fighters who fought in this era and how they get rated.
      I see your point and agree with it. But when people say he is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him I can understand where the overrated part comes in.

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        #153
        Originally posted by Big Dunn
        I see your point and agree with it. But when people say he is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him I can understand where the overrated part comes in.
        Doesnt make much sense does it.

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          #154
          actually most of pac's big fights and title fights he was always the underdog. he was the underdog against sasakul, ledwaba, barrera, marquez, morales and dela hoya. it's only now that he was getting the upperhand after he has already proven himself.

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            #155
            Originally posted by Big Dunn
            I see your point and agree with it. But when people say he is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him I can understand where the overrated part comes in.
            But, that shouldn't mean nothing at all. Because, that conclusion could be due to the styles since styles makes fights or it could be cuz of size or different aspect could come to who wins a H2H match up is not just cuz of who is better.

            Pep was a better fighter than Saddler yet Saddler beat him 3 our of 4 times. Lamotta was able to get a win over Sugar Ray Robinson and then lot numerous more times.

            Winning a H2H match up doesn't necessary mean you the best fighter. Not saying Floyd is NOT the better fighter. He could very easily be. But, when people say Pac is the best of this era and pick Floyd to win doesn't mean Pac is overrated or whatever. It just people think Pac is the greatest fighter of this era.

            By a lot people Duran ranks higher than Leonad. Duran lost twice to Leonard, lost to Hearns, and lost to Benitez. Leonard beat Duran, Hearns, and Benitez. Yet a lot of people still rank Duran ranks higher even though he lost the H2H matchups.

            Point is one H2H match up does not prove you're the most overrated fighter of this era. That is just a ridiculous statement and is ridiculous for posters to try and justify it especially when this era had Oscar, Judah, Hatton, and other fighters.

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              #156
              Originally posted by Bhopreign
              Doesnt make much sense does it.
              You don't make sense... So beat it.

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                #157
                Originally posted by jrosales13
                But, that shouldn't mean nothing at all. Because, that conclusion could be due to the styles since styles makes fights or it could be cuz of size or different aspect could come to who wins a H2H match up is not just cuz of who is better.

                Pep was a better fighter than Saddler yet Saddler beat him 3 our of 4 times. Lamotta was able to get a win over Sugar Ray Robinson and then lot numerous more times.

                Winning a H2H match up doesn't necessary mean you the best fighter. Not saying Floyd is NOT the better fighter. He could very easily be. But, when people say Pac is the best of this era and pick Floyd to win doesn't mean Pac is overrated or whatever. It just people think Pac is the greatest fighter of this era.

                By a lot people Duran ranks higher than Leonad. Duran lost twice to Leonard, lost to Hearns, and lost to Benitez. Leonard beat Duran, Hearns, and Benitez. Yet a lot of people still rank Duran ranks higher even though he lost the H2H matchups.

                Point is one H2H match up does not prove you're the most overrated fighter of this era. That is just a ridiculous statement and is ridiculous for posters to try and justify it especially when this era had Oscar, Judah, Hatton, and other fighters.
                If you say manny is the best IMO that means you will pick him to win. If an indiviual says Manny is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him, I'm thinking that person really believes floyd is the best and is over rating manny when in this case.

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                  #158
                  Originally posted by Big Dunn
                  If you say manny is the best IMO that means you will pick him to win. If an indiviual says Manny is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him, I'm thinking that person really believes floyd is the best and is over rating manny when in this case.
                  I guess.

                  Maybe you right and maybe Pep is overrated how can people say he is arguably the greatest FW of all time even though he lost 3 times to Saddler.

                  Yes it makes so much sense for anybody who ranks Pep ahead of Saddler is overrated Pep.

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by Big Dunn
                    If you say manny is the best IMO that means you will pick him to win. If an indiviual says Manny is the best fighter of this era and then pick floyd to beat him, I'm thinking that person really believes floyd is the best and is over rating manny when in this case.
                    The 95-96 Bulls had the best season ever recorded in the NBA: 72-10. Many consider them the best team of all time and they were generally regarded as the best of that season. The Indiana Pacers, however, beat them twice that season.

                    Does that mean the Pacers were a better team than the Chicago Bulls?

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by 2501
                      The 95-96 Bulls had the best season ever recorded in the NBA: 72-10. Many consider them the best team of all time and they were generally regarded as the best of that season. The Indiana Pacers, however, beat them twice that season.

                      Does that mean the Pacers were a better team than the Chicago Bulls?
                      So did the raptors. Get your point but it doesn't apply here.

                      It seems alot of people pick manny because they don't like floyd's style/antics/BS etc. Liking someone shouldn't factor in to this IMO. If you say manny is an ATG, fair. Saying he is top 10, over rated. If you say Manny is the best of this generation, over rated. Saying he is one of the best, no question.

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