Who do you think is the most overrated boxer ever?

[Dirt E Gomez]

Lol. He didn't fight Toney, Hopkins or McCallum at their best, please wake up! Pazienza was a blown-up Lightweight FFS. Give me a break, and wins over the other guys on that list do not warrant being called the greatest fighter that ever lived It's a ****ing joke.

That's a joke, not their posts. Didn't fight them at their bests, oh what a ****ing shame. He still won. Holmes still beat Ali. Lewis owned Tyson. It doesn't matter, they can have the little asterick in the history books all you want, but none of those fights for RJJ will.

[$$$Pinky$$$]

A lot of these fighters are only overrated depending on who you speak with. Marciano and Chavez are great examples of this.

People who say the Rock was the greatest heavyweight ever easily hands down are overrating him...whereas people who say that he was a lucky brawler who could only out-slug old champs while taking a beating himself underrate him.

With Chavez, people who call him the greatest fighter ever because of his record and undefeated streak and whatnot overrate him...but people who say that he was an unskilled fighter who only beat up on mexican fighters to pad his record and never beat anyone worth noting underrate him.

Trinidad, Lewis, Jones...all of those guys fall into this boat as well.

Now looky here young blood, so what your trying to say here is that every boxer that eva fought is overated? That ofcourse depending who you speak to? That **** makes me wanna take out my pistol!!!
One more thang if this is the case thats a lot mf boats to fill! Shoe nobody gonna use my boat for that ****!!!

[Hitman932]

i cant really decide so Im asking you guys..

But there is one thing for sure....Ali is not overrated!

people will always say that Ali is overrated because of his lack of "impressive knockouts"


the fact is that he is one of a very select few who truly understood the intagibles of the sport and how to effectively match it with his skill. you can downplay it all you want, but Ali knocking out Foreman via the ope a dope was one one of the most beautiful pieces of boxing ever to be seen.

beauty in simplicity. period. exclamtion point!

[Run]

JuyJuy. Most Boxing fans, regular ringside observers of his fights, as well as experts on the issue........regard RJJ as the greatest fighter of our generation.

And on the Lewis subject....you can claim he was overrated...and Badmagick can say "He was nowhere near top 5 all time".....B.S.

Even Big George said himself.....Lewis is arguably the greatest fighter in that division all time. Close to the likes of Muhammad Ali.

Look at the people he destroyed. Its really no joke. RJJ as well for that matter.

Oh and lets not forget....Lewis avenged his two losses by way of knockout and or stoppage.



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[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

This is about the ******est thread of the century. You might as well have asked everyone which fighter do they dislike the most. ******. No one's honest about this ****. They jsut type someone they hate and try (failing of course) to justify it.

Vitali has 2 of them. LOL. And I dont care if one was a quit, and the other one from a cut. I dont want to ****ing hear it.

I laughed when MAB got his ass kicked by the one-dimensional Pacquiao. MAB was a big *****, and he got owned on that night, way worse than Vitali did vs Byrd.

[Run]

I laughed when MAB got his ass kicked by the one-dimensional Pacquiao. MAB was a big *****, and he got owned on that night, way worse than Vitali did vs Byrd.

You mad because I ripped on your girlfriend A.K.A. "Wanda Sykes"?

STfu clown. You can do better than that.



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[JUYJUY]

Here's what a respected boxing journalist had to say about Roy Jones Jr..
Roy Jones was included in the Ring Magazine Top 80 pound-for-pound fighters of all-time, but I believe it is a mistake. He wouldn't even make my Top 100. To be considered an all-time great, you have to be involved in great fights, the greatest fighters are involved in the greatest fights, and Roy Jones was not involved in any. The reason that he wasn't involved in any is because he chose the easy low-risk route, he simply did not fight the best fighters in any of the weight divisions he fought at so there wasn't as much possibility for any kind of super-fight involving Roy Jones. The hard-hitting USA middleweights such as Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan are missing from his resume, British stars Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank are missing from his resume, Germany's best Dariusz Michalczewsi and Graciano Rocchigiani are missing from his resume, and there's not even a Michael Nunn or a Frankie Liles on his resume, despite Nunn and Liles being fellow US citizens and going out of their way to try and make a fight with Roy on many occasions. These kind of fights could of brought the best out of Roy rather than Roy defending titles against no-hopers. Irishman Steve Collins climbed into the ring after a Roy Jones fight and offered to fight him, at the time Collins was a world champion so there was something to gain for Roy, why the fight didn't happen can only be down to Roy. Roy Jones has never been a lineal title holder at any weight he's fought at, and that speaks volumes. Roy Jones JR., the brutal honest truth: an over-rated fraud.

I agree!

[Run]

Here's what a respected boxing journalist had to say about Roy Jones Jr..
Roy Jones was included in the Ring Magazine Top 80 pound-for-pound fighters of all-time, but I believe it is a mistake. He wouldn't even make my Top 100. To be considered an all-time great, you have to be involved in great fights, the greatest fighters are involved in the greatest fights, and Roy Jones was not involved in any. The reason that he wasn't involved in any is because he chose the easy low-risk route, he simply did not fight the best fighters in any of the weight divisions he fought at so there wasn't as much possibility for any kind of super-fight involving Roy Jones. The hard-hitting USA middleweights such as Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan are missing from his resume, British stars Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank are missing from his resume, Germany's best Dariusz Michalczewsi and Graciano Rocchigiani are missing from his resume, and there's not even a Michael Nunn or a Frankie Liles on his resume, despite Nunn and Liles being fellow US citizens and going out of their way to try and make a fight with Roy on many occasions. These kind of fights could of brought the best out of Roy rather than Roy defending titles against no-hopers. Irishman Steve Collins climbed into the ring after a Roy Jones fight and offered to fight him, at the time Collins was a world champion so there was something to gain for Roy, why the fight didn't happen can only be down to Roy. Roy Jones has never been a lineal title holder at any weight he's fought at, and that speaks volumes. Roy Jones JR., the brutal honest truth: an over-rated fraud.

I agree!

Arturo "thunder" Gatti was in great fights. Does that make him an all time great?

This is where we differ.

*heads to the lounge*

this is getting ridiculous. My fingers are tired of Pwnage.



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[-Antonio-]

It seems like people are suddenly calling RJJ overrated because he lost twice at the end of his career. It happends to everybody. It happend to Ali. RJJ beat everyone put in front of him except for glen johnson, although he was washed up by then. He may not have faced Toney at his best but its not his fault, and B-Hop was at his best he just faught the better man. I also dont think anyone should call Tito overrated. He was unstoppable as a welter. He got outboxed by a hall of famer in De La Hoya, but still won the fight on the cards. His only losses are agaisnt two very good middleweights. He hasnt ducked anyone his whole career. I still think if he had a better trainer he could be a much more polished boxer.

[JUYJUY]

JuyJuy. Most Boxing fans, regular ringside observers of his fights, as well as experts on the issue........regard RJJ as the greatest fighter of our generation.

To be honest with you, I come across no end of people who believe that Jones Jr was a phoney, you'd be suprised just how many.