Who do you think is the most overrated boxer ever?

[oldgringo]

A lot of these fighters are only overrated depending on who you speak with. Marciano and Chavez are great examples of this.

People who say the Rock was the greatest heavyweight ever easily hands down are overrating him...whereas people who say that he was a lucky brawler who could only out-slug old champs while taking a beating himself underrate him.

With Chavez, people who call him the greatest fighter ever because of his record and undefeated streak and whatnot overrate him...but people who say that he was an unskilled fighter who only beat up on mexican fighters to pad his record and never beat anyone worth noting underrate him.

Trinidad, Lewis, Jones...all of those guys fall into this boat as well.

[BadMagick]

This coming from the same person who did not know who David Reid Was.....

Just hush up. You are an imbecile.

Because I didn't follow boxing until this year, I can't say that Lennox was not a top five HW? Joe Louis, Ali, Foreman, Fraizer, Holmes, there's five right there who were better than Lennox was. He's hardly top five, top ten, maybe, but that's a stretch, top 15 is pretty decent to give him, and top 20 is a must. He fought in such a weak era of HW. Evander was old, and pretty much shot when they fought, Tyson was post-jail, and everyone knows that post-jail Tyson was not the same Tyson of the 80's. McCall a really notable name? Rahman? Mercer? Mercer was good, but beating him can't be all that hard, he has double-digit losses, not to mention how old he was then. Golota is a no-heart bum. Tua? Tua's a ****ing joke. Grant was a good prospect, but he was rushed ahead way too early, and was an INCREDIBLY easy win for Lennox. The man will never be a hall of famer. The fact is Lennox fought two way past their prime hall of famers in Tyson and Evander, and that's it. You're a joke.

[Run]

Because I didn't follow boxing until this year?.

I rest my case genious. You typed all that for nothing.



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[AintGottaClue]

Roy Jones noteable wins

Hopkins
thomas tate
james toney
vinny pazienza
mike mccallum
montel griffin
virgil hill
otis grant
reggie johnson
richard hall
eric harding
julio ceaser gonzalez
glenn kelly
clinton woods
john ruiz
antonio tarver

overrated? umm no? he ended a lot of guys undefeated records like hopkins and toney, and he beat everyone there was to fight light heavyweight

[Run]

Roy Jones noteable wins

Hopkins
thomas tate
james toney
vinny pazienza
mike mccallum
montel griffin
virgil hill
otis grant
reggie johnson
richard hall
eric harding
julio ceaser gonzalez
glenn kelly
clinton woods
john ruiz
antonio tarver

overrated? umm no? he ended a lot of guys undefeated records like hopkins and toney, and he beat everyone there was to fight light heavyweight

yeah.....You could post that fifty times....and these morons would never get it through their thick skull.



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[BadMagick]

Roy Jones noteable wins

Hopkins
thomas tate
james toney
vinny pazienza
mike mccallum
montel griffin
virgil hill
otis grant
reggie johnson
richard hall
eric harding
julio ceaser gonzalez
glenn kelly
clinton woods
john ruiz
antonio tarver

overrated? umm no? he ended a lot of guys undefeated records like hopkins and toney, and he beat everyone there was to fight light heavyweight

Hopkins lost his first pro fight. He wasn't undefeated.

I rest my case genious. You typed all that for nothing.

You only say that because deep down, you know I'm right. McCall was nothing, Rahman was nothing. Golota is a joke, and Grant was too young an inexperienced to do anything. Evander and Tyson were shot. Tua's a ****ing chump, and so is Vitali. He fought in one of the weakest eras of heavyweight fighting.

By the way, it's "genius." Looks like someone spent twelve years in school for nothing. You can't even spell properly.

[JUYJUY]

Roy Jones noteable wins

Hopkins
thomas tate
james toney
vinny pazienza
mike mccallum
montel griffin
virgil hill
otis grant
reggie johnson
richard hall
eric harding
julio ceaser gonzalez
glenn kelly
clinton woods
john ruiz
antonio tarver

overrated? umm no? he ended a lot of guys undefeated records like hopkins and toney, and he beat everyone there was to fight light heavyweight

Lol. He didn't fight Toney, Hopkins or McCallum at their best, please wake up! Pazienza was a blown-up Lightweight FFS. Give me a break, and wins over the other guys on that list do not warrant being called the greatest fighter that ever lived It's a ****ing joke.

[JUYJUY]

yeah.....You could post that fifty times....and these morons would never get it through their thick skull.

You've been brain-washed.

[BadMagick]

Lol. He didn't fight Toney, Hopkins or McCallum at their best, please wake up! Pazienza was a blown-up Lightweight FFS. Give me a break, and wins over the other guys on that list do not warrant being called the greatest fighter that ever lived It's a ****ing joke.

I think to call him the greatest ever is a little far fetched, but to say he wasn't a great talent is ******, as well. He beat some very good fighters, and, while he didn't fight the best at Middle, he fought all but one at Light-heavy, which is where the majority of his career took place, anyhow. Dariusz is really the only guy he didn't take on at LH that's of any note, and that can be EASILY explained.

[JUYJUY]

Great read: http://espn.go.com/boxing/a/2002/1224/1482117.html

Good stuff: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=363