Who do you think is the most overrated boxer ever?

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  • Run
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    #41
    Lmfao@ juyjuy.

    Antonio Tarver
    John Ruiz
    Clinton Woods
    Glen Kelley
    JC Gonzales
    Derrick Harmon
    Erik Harding
    David Telesco
    Virgil Hill
    Montel Griffin
    Mike McCallum
    James Toney
    Bernard Hopkins
    Thomas Tate


    All decent fighters Roy beat. You imbecile.



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    • JUYJUY
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      #42
      Originally posted by RunWithKnives
      Lmfao@ juyjuy.

      Antonio Tarver
      John Ruiz
      Clinton Woods
      Glen Kelley
      JC Gonzales
      Derrick Harmon
      Erik Harding
      David Telesco
      Virgil Hill
      Montel Griffin
      Mike McCallum
      James Toney
      Bernard Hopkins
      Thomas Tate
      LMFAO!

      Tarver, Ruiz, Woods, Kelley, Gonzalez, Harmon, Harding, Telesco, Tate.. beating these guys do not make you better than Sugar Ray Robinson.

      Hopkins wasn't even ranked in the top five at 160 at the time of Jones Jr fighting him, Toney was severely weight-drained and McCallum was 40-years-old. Toney and McCallum at their best at 160 would of beaten Jones Jr that's for sure.

      Hill was a good win, but the Lineal RING Mag champion Michalczewski had already beaten Hill. Griffin was causing Jones Jr alsorts of problems, and he beat Jones Jr.

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      • Run
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        #43
        Originally posted by JUYJUY


        Hopkins wasn't even ranked in the top five at 160 at the time of Jones Jr fighting him
        ummm.......Hopkins last loss prior to taylor was RJJ. LOL!

        Toney was severely weight-drained and McCallum was 40-years-old. Toney and McCallum at their best at 160 would of beaten Jones Jr that's for sure.
        Excuses, Excuses. Keep reaching.

        Griffin was causing Jones Jr alsorts of problems, and he beat Jones Jr.
        hahahahhaahahh

        by a ****ing disqualification avenged by first round KO.

        You need to take meds man. Seriously.

        You know **** about Boxing.....and it shows.



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        • BadMagick
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          #44
          Originally posted by RunWithKnives
          ****ing Yawn.

          Holds wins over,

          Currently "highly regarded" Vitali Klitschko

          Mike Tyson-- And dont give me this "Mike was washed up..." ****...because they were the same age basically.

          Evander Holyfield--1 legitimate win + the draw that should have been a win....but was robbed.

          David Tua

          Michael Grant-, who was considered the future of the heavyweight division because of his impressive undefeated record at the time.

          Shannon Briggs

          Andrew Golota
          Henry Akiwande
          Oliver McCall
          Frank Bruno
          Razor Ruddock


          Overrated my ass. Hush up. Easily top five heavyweight of all time no matter how you look at it. Im sorry;

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          "You know its sad but truuuuuuueeeeeeee!"
          Top five only if you're ****ing insane. And anyone who uses that age **** with the Tyson fight is a moron. Tyson was a shadow of the man he was in the 80's by that time.

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            #45
            Originally posted by BadMagick
            And anyone who uses that age **** with the Tyson fight is a moron. Tyson was a shadow of the man he was in the 80's by that time.
            A moron is an understatement.

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            • AintGottaClue
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              #46
              lennox lewis, rocky M, tito trinidad all disgustingly overrated

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                #47
                Originally posted by shemmue
                i don't know how people can say trinidad is overated ..he won titles in 3 different divisons and fought everybody that he could fight never ducked anyone ......he was one of the most exciting fighters to come around in along time and he was a devastating fighter reid,vargas,joppy were never the same after fighting tito he ended careers .....i know he got dominated by hopkins and winky but they have made alot of guys look bad in my eyes it still does not take away from what he accomplished .
                Every real class fighter he ever went up against made him look foolish. Winky, B-Hop, and Oscar made him look ******. Oscar dominated the fight, and got robbed at the end.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by BadMagick
                  Every real class fighter he ever went up against made him look foolish. Winky, B-Hop, and Oscar made him look ******. Oscar dominated the fight, and got robbed at the end.
                  This coming from the same person who did not know who David Reid Was.....

                  Just hush up. You are an imbecile.



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                  • JUYJUY
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RunWithKnives
                    ummm.......Hopkins last loss prior to taylor was RJJ. LOL!



                    Excuses, Excuses. Keep reaching.



                    hahahahhaahahh

                    by a ****ing disqualification avenged by first round KO.

                    You need to take meds man. Seriously.

                    You know **** about Boxing.....and it shows.
                    Your the one who needs to take the meds, you have been fooled and brain-washed and it's funny as hell.

                    The number one Middleweight's while Roy Jones was at that weight were Julian Jackson and Gerald McClellan, Roy Jones was never number one at Middleweight. Roy Jones didn't fight Jackson or McClellan, he was too scared plain and simple.

                    Roy Jones was Nigel Benn's mandatory contender early in 1993 at 168, Benn was WBC champ, but Jones Jr figured out that Benn would be too tough so he dropped back to down to 160 to avoid Benn who was up for the fight with Jones, he dropped back down to 160 despite being a mandatory contender for a WBC title! If that isn't avoiding somebody then I don't know what is!

                    Before fighting Toney, Jones Jr wasn't ranked near the top 10 lb4lb, Toney was #1 lb4lb and Jones Jr was a big underdog. But just six weeks before the Jones Jr fight, Toney was weighing 220lbs! He had to get down to 168! So Toney was extremely dehydrated and a shadow of his former self against Jones Jr due to starving himself, ofcourse Jones Jr managed to pick up the win.. but it wasn't Toney near his best so the win counts for nothing because Jones Jr refused to give Toney a re-match years and years and years. And after beating the current #1 lb4lb in Toney, Jones Jr jumped all the way into the #1 lb4lb spot undeservedly and stayed there for 10 years - very undeservedly. Jones Jr defended his IBF 168 title five times, three of which weren't even ranked in the top 10 at 168 at the time and another was just a 'blown-up' Lightweight, the first time that Jones Jr ever fought a mandatory contender was his very last fight as a 160-168 fighter against Bryant Brannon (Bryant who?). Roy Jones avoided fellow top five World Champions Nigel Benn, Chris Eubank, Steve Collins and Frankie Liles because he was scared, they all called Jones Jr out and tried to make the fight but Jones Jr was plain and simple too scared to take risks.

                    After defeating 40-year-old Mike McCallum (who would of taken Jones apart in his prime 7-8 years earlier) Roy Jones was AWARDED the WBC 175 belt, and proceeded to defend the belt against mediocre opposition for six years before jumping to Heavyweight and taking on the worst of the Heavyweight champs (Ruiz), but what people forget is that Dariusz Michalczewski was the Lineal Champion at 175 NOT Roy Jones, Dariusz Michalczewski was the RING Magazine champion at 175 NOT Roy Jones, Roy Jones defeated Virgil Hill at 175 but it was Michalczewski who was the first man to defeat Hill in Hill's previous fight NOT Roy Jones. Michael Nunn was often Jones' mandatory in the mid-to-late 90's but Jones Jr was too scared to fight him and risk losing.

                    He fooled all of you by never fighting the best, and you fell for it, believing that he was 'invincible' because he was beating washed up nobodies or green bums with his superior reflexes making up for his so many technical flaws, and you didn't know none the wiser.

                    Benn, Eubank, Nunn, McClellan.. any of those guys would of given Jones Jr his toughest test by miles. Michalczewski and Calzaghe are better opposition than Tarver and Johnson who both beat Jones Jr's ass (despite both being older than Jones Jr).

                    After defeating the great Richard Hall(Nigel Benn wannabe lol), people were calling Jones Jr "greater than Sugar Ray Robinson", he did a great job fooling y'all!

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                    • Easy-E
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by SturmRules
                      lennox lewis, rocky M, tito trinidad all disgustingly overrated
                      lewis, yes, tito, yes, even though i like him, but rocky?
                      how can you call an undefeated fighter underrated. he was tough as nails, beat some great fighters and never lost, once. I dont understand how you can call him underrated

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