Why are old school fighters from 1900-1960 rated ATG?

**Ravishing** · 09-07-2010, 08:57 AM

Originally posted by Medved

I dont get this, if you compare the dieting,exercise and technique and general knowledge that fighters do these days compared to that era its like a day and night difference. I dont know why everyone is on these old dudes balls. For the most part they were all out of shape drunks looking for a free meal ticket.

There was no level of competition back then as there is now where everything from diet to training and technique and gloves is scientifically calculated.

Can someone explain why these guys are considered ATG? Older doesn't mean better. I know boxing is an old mans sport and they think that old boys are better but i dont think so. Put the eras best fighters against top 10 fighters of today and they would get KO 1 rd.

**PEBBLES!** · 09-07-2010, 08:58 AM

Originally posted by Medved

I dont get this, if you compare the dieting,exercise and technique and general knowledge that fighters do these days compared to that era its like a day and night difference. I dont know why everyone is on these old dudes balls. For the most part they were all out of shape drunks looking for a free meal ticket.

There was no level of competition back then as there is now where everything from diet to training and technique and gloves is scientifically calculated.

Can someone explain why these guys are considered ATG? Older doesn't mean better. I know boxing is an old mans sport and they think that old boys are better but i dont think so. Put the eras best fighters against top 10 fighters of today and they would get KO 1 rd.

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**TOBYLEE1** · 09-07-2010, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Medved

I dont get this, if you compare the dieting,exercise and technique and general knowledge that fighters do these days compared to that era its like a day and night difference. I dont know why everyone is on these old dudes balls. For the most part they were all out of shape drunks looking for a free meal ticket.

There was no level of competition back then as there is now where everything from diet to training and technique and gloves is scientifically calculated.

Can someone explain why these guys are considered ATG? Older doesn't mean better. I know boxing is an old mans sport and they think that old boys are better but i dont think so. Put the eras best fighters against top 10 fighters of today and they would get KO 1 rd.

This is simple, only one or two titles depending in what era. Only 8 weight classes. All fighters had to fight each other and fight more frequent cause they didn't get paid much. It was an era that even if you didn't win a title the word contender had a meaning. Training methods are advanced today but it doesn't mean that the technics or training from back in the day were in-effective

**Dynamite Kid** · 09-07-2010, 09:04 AM

You dont measure fighters in comparison to fighters from other era's, you measure them on how dominant they were in their respective era's, what they did in their time.

**PEBBLES!** · 09-07-2010, 09:05 AM

**bojangles1987** · 09-07-2010, 09:06 AM

On a serious note, it is a serious question of just how good and how well boxers from the old days would compete if they had access to the type of training and equipment fighters today do. Outside of the heavyweight division, boxing is one of the few sports, maybe the only one where fighters due to weight classes aren't getting any bigger or stronger, they just have access to far better training methods and equipment.

If Sugar Ray Robinson has access to what Floyd Mayweather or Manny Pacquiao do, is he a lot better, a little better, what's the difference? It would be awesome to somehow see that.

**Run** · 09-07-2010, 09:07 AM

Sugar Ray would have torn 90% of modern day fighters apart.

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**MACAQUEINBLACK** · 09-07-2010, 09:07 AM

Originally posted by TOBYLEE1

This is simple, only one or two titles depending in what era. Only 8 weight classes. All fighters had to fight each other and fight more frequent cause they didn't get paid much. It was an era that even if you didn't win a title the word contender had a meaning. Training methods are advanced today but it doesn't mean that the technics or training from back in the day were in-effective

I wish words like 'Champion' and 'contender' had meaning now.

**Medved** · 09-07-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Dynamite Kid

You dont measure fighters in comparison to fighters from other era's, you measure them on how dominant they were in their respective era's, what they did in their time.

Thanks exactly what I was looking for.

So they are ranked ATG solely on their dominance in their era and nothing else?

Why are old school fighters from 1900-1960 rated ATG?