ESPNs ATG list: Which ATG boxers were undefeated?

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    #31
    Originally posted by rochemback
    It's an indicator for ducking the best opposition or/and knowing when it is the right time to call it quits.
    But it's only natural that even all time greats decline and get beat by some younger blood at the end of their career, doesn't take anything away from their greatness, merely gives back to the sport by helping to build new big names to pass the torch to.
    ok, so you make yourself the sacrificial lamb

    i get it now. hahahaha

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      #32
      Originally posted by S.G.
      This thread is rather ******.
      Thanks for the input.

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        #33
        Originally posted by blackirish137
        excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB.
        Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100.
        any country that focuses more on boxing will do better in it.
        it seems so obvious, but its so hard for people to grasp.
        We talking about top 50 man not top 100.

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          #34
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB.
          Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100.
          He said top 50, man. Not top 100. In my opinion, all those guys are probably top 100.

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            #35
            Originally posted by blackirish137
            excuse me? the only one on that list that wont make it into the top 100 is probably MAB.
            Sal Sanchez, JCC, Ruben Olivares, Morales, and Ricardo Lopez are definitely top 100.
            any country that focuses more on boxing will do better in it.
            it seems so obvious, but its so hard for people to grasp.
            Mexico is a border away.. The P.I. is oceans away..

            And MAB IMO is top 100.. easy

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              #36
              Originally posted by Heeb 13
              He said top 50, man. Not top 100. In my opinion, all those guys are probably top 100.
              I agree, I would put all of them in my top 100 but not top 50.

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                #37
                Most do have losses...Floyd has his own infatuation with his 0...and its the most important thing to him...

                I think a loss may devastate him...he may not fight again...if its a knockout...

                If it was a points loss I think he would dispute it to the highest level...

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                  #38
                  whoops, my mistake yall.

                  imo Morales, Lopez, JCC, Olivares and Sal Sanchez are all top 50 anyway.

                  although please dont ask me to make a top 50 list, thats way too much work, lol.

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                    #39
                    obviously just being undefeated don't make you a ATG, Mayweather SKILLS IN THE RING is what makes him a ATG though and the ability to do things many fighters can't or couldn't do Past or Present, this list was done back in 2007 and Mayweather was already #48 back then, Hate Him Or Love Him but he might go down as the most complete fighter in boxing History, the man really don't have much of a weakness, the Media people and the Fans love to hate him now because he is so good but when he steps away people will look back at his clips and video and be amazed by his PRUE SKILLS, the next Generation of fighters will STUDY Mayweather style, Boxing Trainers will USE Mayweather style to train their fighters, you already see it on youtube Trainers using Roger Mayweather's Pad Work style to train their fighters

                    but all of those Rankings are Opinions nothing more nothing less, it is so many ATG Rankings, some have Ali #1, some have Robinson #1 and some have Armstrong #1 so it is ALL Opinions
                    Last edited by sicko; 09-06-2010, 01:41 PM.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      whoops, my mistake yall.

                      imo Morales, Lopez, JCC, Olivares and Sal Sanchez are all top 50 anyway.

                      although please dont ask me to make a top 50 list, thats way too much work, lol.
                      Is cool,

                      And, yes there is a lot of work to make a top 50 list.

                      I would say Morales could be argued. I really think he is debatable. I won't argue either way if somebody has him in the low top 50 or just outside the top 50. I think he is in the top 3 greatest SBW of all time easily. I personally don't have him in my top 50. But, I won't argue if you do. Because, it could be argued that he is.

                      Lopez? I am a huge Lopez fan. I think he has a good resume. That could of been a great resume if some fights would of taken place for example with Chiquita Gonzalez, Carbajal, or against too sharp Johnson at 112 in the late 90's. Skills wise this man is up there. He IMO is the most skillful, perfect fighter of my lifetime. I saw no flaw in him great technique, good speed, footwork, intelligence, power, he had it all. I would put him way up there skill wise. But, I don't think his resume, even though it is good, lives up to the top 50 ATG kind of level. Just my opinion.

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