Jake Lamotta In Todays Middleweight Era: How Easy Does He Reign?

**crold1** · 09-05-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Mannie Phresh

Not that his dominance in todays middleweight era is 100% certain but i think he beats all the top names in the division right now. That includes Sergio Martinez and i enjoy his style of fighting, Paul Williams, Pirog, and even Pavliks need to move up in weight ass. What do you guys think?

Given his weight struggles, LaMotta might be even better in the day before weigh in era. An excellent pressure boxer, he'd probably have a higher knockout rate in this era as well. There is a flip; the layoffs in this era could mean he blew up worse between fights. He'd have been an excellent Super Middle as well.

At his best, there is no one at Middle right now who beats him.

**The Hammer** · 09-05-2010, 11:42 AM

Jake LaMotta is one of the most overrated boxers of all time.

His fame is based largely on Sugar Ray Robinson having an off night, kind of like Hasim Rahman's fame being based on Lennox Lewis not being fully focused for one fight.

Sergio, Pirog and Williams are better than LaMotta, who was similar to Pawel Wolak.

**Canelo Phresh** · 09-05-2010, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Freedom Fighter

Jake LaMotta is one of the most overrated boxers of all time.

His fame is based largely on Sugar Ray Robinson having an off night, kind of like Hasim Rahman's fame being based on Lennox Lewis not being fully focused for one fight.

Sergio, Pirog and Williams are better than LaMotta, who was similar to Pawel Wolak.

are you one of those klitards that think they beat every single heavyweight atg?

**Calilloyd** · 09-05-2010, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by Freedom Fighter

Jake LaMotta is one of the most overrated boxers of all time.

His fame is based largely on Sugar Ray Robinson having an off night, kind of like Hasim Rahman's fame being based on Lennox Lewis not being fully focused for one fight.

Sergio, Pirog and Williams are better than LaMotta, who was similar to Pawel Wolak.

You clearly don't know what you're talking about. You're getting your information from boxrec. Have you ever heard of Marcel Cerdan? Didn't think so.

**Calilloyd** · 09-05-2010, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by Mannie Phresh

Not that his dominance in todays middleweight era is 100% certain but i think he beats all the top names in the division right now. That includes Sergio Martinez and i enjoy his style of fighting, Paul Williams, Pirog, and even Pavliks need to move up in weight ass. What do you guys think?

I doubt if Lamotta would fight at 160 today. He would fight at 168. He struggled making weight at 160. He was a big middlweight. With that said, I wouldn't pick anybody at 160 today to beat him.

**Calilloyd** · 09-05-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Mannie Phresh

are you one of those klitards that think they beat every single heavyweight atg?

He is that....

**dj Ramos** · 09-05-2010, 11:52 AM

Sexy Sergio beats Lamotta, but i think Lamotta can beat every other middleweight u meantioned, Williams im not sure...like it or not Williams is a tremendous fighter.

**The Hammer** · 09-05-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally posted by Mannie Phresh

are you one of those klitards that think they beat every single heavyweight atg?

I've never said that. I have said they would be competitive in any era.

Jake Lamotta had a very ordinary career, except for his win over SRR (you have to take into account that Cerdan was terminally ill when LaMotta won their fight).

Robinson defeated LaMotta in all of the rematches, and utterly destroyed him is some of them.

**Canelo Phresh** · 09-05-2010, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Calilloyd

I doubt if Lamotta would fight at 160 today. He would fight at 168. He struggled making weight at 160. He was a big middlweight.

possibly i just dont think anybodies got his number in todays division

Jake Lamotta In Todays Middleweight Era: How Easy Does He Reign?