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  • Jack Dempsey a known racist seems to get remembered just fine~

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    • Originally posted by Check View Post
      How does Mayweather being a racist tarnish his legacy? Not all athletes are angels and some of the greatest athletes have been coke heads, rapists, or openly racist. If you don't like the person that is fine but that doesn't diminish what he does in his or her sport. You need to learn how to separate the two.

      Its not ONLY that, that will tarnish his legacy, its whole persona, the ignorance, the arrogance, but arrogance which is not comparable to any other fighter cause he aint fighting the best, he is saying he is the best, but cherry picking his opponents, which are usually old, or small.

      As i said, its easy for a journo to bump(a few places) a guy up historically, if they happen to respect them as man, not just a fighter, maybe thats wrong, but its the way it is imo, its human nature to subliminally give someone more credit if you happen to like them.

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      • Originally posted by The Gambler1981 View Post
        Jack Dempsey a known racist seems to get remembered just fine~
        lol...so was the legendary ty cobb. muhammad ali was considerably racist and the religion he practiced is considered a hate group within the us. these things are true.

        most americans have been making racial remarks on a daily basis about both mexicans and those of arabic descent in recent months for various reasons. america remains a racially divided society, thats the hard facts.

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        • Originally posted by Bhopreign View Post
          Floyd's done 2.4 million homes.
          His opponents were a huge factor in sales. Don't play like that isn't sufficient.

          Floyd couldn't sell a fight by himself.

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          • Originally posted by Chunk View Post
            His opponents were a huge factor in sales. Don't play like that isn't sufficient.

            Floyd couldn't sell a fight by himself.
            please...u can say that about every fighter. how much did oscar vs. sturm do??? how about oscar vs. mayorga???

            these guys aint mike tyson. pac has decent numbers but mayweathers numbers overshadow his with the same opponents. so quit with this dumb argument, it is flawed.

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            • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
              lol...so was the legendary ty cobb. muhammad ali was considerably racist and the religion he practiced is considered a hate group within the us. these things are true.

              most americans have been making racial remarks on a daily basis about both mexicans and those of arabic descent in recent months for various reasons. america remains a racially divided society, thats the hard facts.
              I was going to bring up Cobb but to many non American's wouldn't get that, being an overall terrible human being didn't stop the Tigers from building a statue in his honor (with his spikes up) or him being in the first HoF class.

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              • Originally posted by Grand Champ View Post
                Just fine, still a pretty boy, had some things going with caroline wozniacki last I checked.

                I see you're collecting gay ribbons and lipsticks and red k? Fits you good.
                I like Caroline, watch her all the time, kinda young for Mikkel, but hey whatever youre into.

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                • Originally posted by Dynamite Kid View Post
                  Its not ONLY that, that will tarnish his legacy, its whole persona, the ignorance, the arrogance, but arrogance which is not comparable to any other fighter cause he aint fighting the best, he is saying he is the best, but cherry picking his opponents, which are usually old, or small.

                  As i said, its easy for a journo to bump(a few places) a guy up historically, if they happen to respect them as man, not just a fighter, maybe thats wrong, but its the way it is imo, its human nature to subliminally give someone more credit if you happen to like them.
                  Mayweather is one of the greatest smaller weight fighters of all time and has ducked very few fighters(especially at his natural weight classes). What happens if he fights Pac and beats him, are you going to discredit him because he simply is a racist? We are supposed to be judging fighters by what they do in the ring, not if they are a kind person. Many awful people in sports are still rated highly as long as they back it up. Tyrus Cobb is looked at as one of the most gifted baseball players of all time and he was openly racist and woman beater. It's wrong to knock athletes for things that have nothing to do with their profession.

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                  • Originally posted by Chunk View Post
                    His opponents were a huge factor in sales. Don't play like that isn't sufficient.

                    Floyd couldn't sell a fight by himself.
                    Look at JMM's or Mosleys PPV history. Floyd is pretty much bringing in 800 to a million buys. His opponents do some of the numbers but don't get it twisted, Floyd is a massive draw and that is why he gets paid what he does.

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                    • Originally posted by DempseyRollin View Post
                      please...u can say that about every fighter. how much did oscar vs. sturm do??? how about oscar vs. mayorga???

                      these guys aint mike tyson. pac has decent numbers but mayweathers numbers overshadow his with the same opponents. so quit with this dumb argument, it is flawed.
                      I'll tell what is flawed. Mayweather stans bringing up PPV numbers like he did all by himself.

                      It's isn't true and it's high time you got your nut round it.

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