Floyd is the most skilled fighter of all time.

[Tamis!]

Mayweathers more skilled than Ali.

Ali though has the greater prime ability due to his greater athletical ability.

Please answer my question sir...

How do you measure skill?

[Bhopreign]

No that is not what I said.

I said that the right premise of skill is that you learn skill not born with it. That is the definition.

The definition of skill is not hit and not get hit. Like Tamis said that is the science but is not skill

Again skill is something you learn

So you dont think one learns to hit and not get hit? They certainly do. Takes skill to be able to do that especially over 41 fights when one can only name a handful of times that person got tagged but can name numerous times when that person was doing the tagging.

[jrosales13]

Mayweathers more skilled than Ali.

Ali though has the greater prime ability due to his greater athletical ability.

So you also basing this off in terms of greatness then?


Right?

Since you said Floyd is 2nd to Ali. I guess you mean in ATG's am I following you correctly?

[Tamis!]

With eyes. I didnt say Floyd is the most skilled ever but if you combine the qualities of what we know of like counter punching, defense, footwork, accuracy of punches and other things, I wouldnt be against it if someone said he is very high on the list.

You mean your own eyes?

Sorry sir the eye of the beholder is very subjective, look at us right now, different POVs. People see things differently you see...

It is not a legit measure/tool of someone's skill.

[jrosales13]

So you dont think one learns to hit and not get hit? They certainly do. Takes skill to be able to do that especially over 41 fights when one can only name a handful of times that person got tagged but can name numerous times when that person was doing the tagging.

Oh lord,

Again that was not the point of my post to you

I was just correcting you in what skill is. What you said is the Science like Tamis said.

What I am telling is that skill is something that you learn. Hit and not get hit is not the whole picture is not the decent premise like you said for measuring skills.

Do you get what I am saying?

[Bhopreign]

You mean your own eyes?

Sorry sir the eye of the beholder is very subjective, look at us right now, different POVs.

It is not a legit measure/tool of someone's skill.

I went on to explain what I meant when I said with eyes, meaning those things I listed.

[jpunieves]

People need to show him more respect on here. There aint nooone who stands a chance of beating him. 41 have tried, 41 have failed. Manny Pacquiaos a great fighter but hes lost so I dont see how anyone can rate him over Floyd.

Lets be honest hes second only to Ali really.

pacquiao wants to try... but fans are now stuck at 41 and a vacation...

how can he not take pacquiao as an easy fight... pacquiao already lost some, so i think he can beat him easily right?

[Bhopreign]

Oh lord,

Again that was not the point of my post to you

I was just correcting you in what skill is. What you said is the Science like Tamis said.

What I am telling is that skill is something that you learn. Hit and not get hit is not the whole picture is not the decent premise like you said for measuring skills.

Do you get what I am saying?

I named certain skills in another post.

[Tamis!]

I went on to explain what I meant when I said with eyes, meaning those things I listed.

OK fair enough mate.

I'll wait for Morales' answer on how he measure's skill to make his own ATG list.

[Tamis!]

Oh lord,

Again that was not the point of my post to you

I was just correcting you in what skill is. What you said is the Science like Tamis said.

What I am telling is that skill is something that you learn. Hit and not get hit is not the whole picture is not the decent premise like you said for measuring skills.

Do you get what I am saying?

Yeah Jro, I think we're going around in circles, prolly because of the keyword "premise" which was used incorrectly LOL!