List the Top 5 greatest Welterweights ever

[AKATheMack]

I dont see more than a few WW's throughout history being able to beat Floyd Mayweather but I know he doesnt make the list. Regardless of head to head. Its not about what a fighter "would" do its about what they "did" do.

If everything was head to head a Prime Roy Jones would be the GOAT of all the sport.

If the question was the most accomplished WWs in history you'd be correct. Since the question is the greatest WWs Id say the Tommy Hearns that showed up to fight SRL is one of the top five greatest WWs to ever step into a ring. The question depends on interpretation. Tommy Hearns loss to SRL is also 10x more impressive than Floyds win over Mosley just based on what Tommy was able to do for the 14rds leading up to the stoppage.

[NChristo]

**** it I'll throw up a top 10:

1. Armstrong
2. SRR
3. SRL
4. Walcott
5. Napoles
6. Gavilan
7. Ross
8. Griffith
9. Britton
10. Basillo/ McLarnin

I'll put one up too then :P

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Ray Leonard
4. Joe Walcott
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Emile Griffith
7. Jose Napoles
8. Jimmy McClarnin
9. Barney Ross
10. Carmen Basilio

Find it hard to put a number to them, my list could be like this today and change tomorrow.


Honorable mentions: Tommy Ryan, Ted Kid Lewis, Jack Britton, Mickey Walker, Charley Burley

[Flomo Tard]

1 - Sugar Ray Robinson
2 - Manny Pacquiao
3 - Sugar Ray Leonard
4 - Henry Armstrong
5 - Kid Gavilan
6 - Jose Napoles
7 - Carmen Basilio
8 - Thomas Hearns
9 - Barney Ross
10 - Pernell Whitaker

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

If the question was the most accomplished WWs in history you'd be correct. Since the question is the greatest WWs Id say the Tommy Hearns that showed up to fight SRL is one of the top five greatest WWs to ever step into a ring. The question depends on interpretation. Tommy Hearns loss to SRL is also 10x more impressive than Floyds win over Mosley just based on what Tommy was able to do for the 14rds leading up to the stoppage.

I always took greatest as meaning most accomplished. What you described would be more performance based. It means something to different to everybody I guess.

[Viciousz]

1 - Sugar Ray Robinson
2 - Manny Pacquiao
3 - Sugar Ray Leonard
4 - Henry Armstrong
5 - Kid Gavilan
6 - Jose Napoles
7 - Carmen Basilio
8 - Thomas Hearns
9 - Barney Ross
10 - Pernell Whitaker

I don't even have to say anything, lol.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

I'll put one up too then :P

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Henry Armstrong
3. Ray Leonard
4. Joe Walcott
5. Kid Gavilan
6. Emile Griffith
7. Jose Napoles
8. Jimmy McClarnin
9. Barney Ross
10. Carmen Basilio

Find it hard to put a number to them, my list could be like this today and change tomorrow.


Honorable mentions: Tommy Ryan, Ted Kid Lewis, Jack Britton, Mickey Walker, Charley Burley

Yeah I like this list. You're right it is interchangeable outside the top 3.

Id throw Luis Rodriguez and Tommy Ryan an honorable mention vote.

[B.U.R.N.E.R]

1 - Sugar Ray Robinson
2 - Manny Pacquiao
3 - Sugar Ray Leonard
4 - Henry Armstrong
5 - Kid Gavilan
6 - Jose Napoles
7 - Carmen Basilio
8 - Thomas Hearns
9 - Barney Ross
10 - Pernell Whitaker

Stop trolling..................

Especially the Pacquio selection.

[AKATheMack]

I always took greatest as meaning most accomplished. What you described would be more performance based. It means something to different to everybody I guess.

I understand what you're saying completely, like you said it just means different things to different people. It also gets hard to rank older fighters based on resume because you not only have to watch all their fights, but all their opponents fights and all of their opponents fights just to get the right perspective. Ive studied a lot of the sport and continue to, but not to the point where I feel comfortable ranking them based on resume. Some people have all that knowledge I dont.

[SCtrojansbaby]

Go to Amazon.com buy some books. Read them get caught up on the history of the sport.

Go on some ******* sites or better yet ask Mr. Copeland for the ******* sight and you can see just about any fight that was televised and recorded.

Get caught up on the history and you'll quickly find out that its trollish and fan boy esque to rank Tito as the greatest ww ever.

Sure, I'll rank guys that I have actually seen fight 10-20x and have lived to and you can rank guys that died 20 some years ago and you have watched 5x on youtube and read about in a book. Which one seems more logical huh?

I call this Bill Russells Syndrome, me and my friends argue who was the best Shaq Jordan Bird etc etc and some douche say Bill Russell because he read a book and saw 6 Celtic games on ESPN Classic.

[AKATheMack]

Sure, I'll rank guys that I have actually seen fight 10-20x and have lived to and you can rank guys that died 20 some years ago and you have watched 5x on youtube and read about in a book. Which one seems more logical huh?

I call this Bill Russells Syndrome, me and my friends argue who was the best Shaq Jordan Bird etc etc and some douche say Bill Russell because he read a book and saw 6 Celtic games on ESPN Classic.

I agree with you to a certain extent, but I think you also underestimate the dedication of some fans. Just because you havent seen a lot of certain fighters doesnt mean nobody else has.