Comments Thread For: Hopkins vs Pascal Possible For December 18 on HBO

[carlos slim]

i think its hilarious how people are still backing that hypejob dawson who has the heart of the tinman....and forget how glen johnson almost kod him.....how can you not want hopkins vs lhw champion....the guy who beat that biatch dawson....

[ИATAS]

He doesn't deserve to be ranked that high.

Because he hasn't faced a legit ranked LHW in 4 years, outside of Calzaghe... who was a career smw and didn't even win the fight.

The Pavlik fight was a GOOD win, it wasn't a GREAT win.

It doesn't matter why Bernard won... he fought the MW champion at 170lbs, not to even mention his best win is against Jermain Taylor, and has ONE win above MW, in a rematch at 164lbs.

The last ranked LHW Bernard beat was 4 years ago.

I'll take The Ring's ratings over the WBC, WBO, WBA's ratings anyday. John Duddy #2 MW and ****, fuuck that noise.

Bhop is a goddamn legend. Top 10 ratings emeritus.

[street bully]

It would have been better than Winky at 170, Ornelas, and Roy Jones.

The Pavlik fight is good not great. He gets more credit to me for the way he performed at his age, then beating the actual opponent, someone whose best win is Jermain Taylor and fighting 10lbs above his prime weight class.

I also don't care about your Floyd reasoning...

if he beats Pascal, I'll be the first to give him huge amounts of credit... but don't go into hiding, when Dawson wants his belt back.

Dawson wont be the number one contender, he will ahve to beat pascal to get it. If Hopkisn wins Pascal will probably drop to number one lhw, also Dawson never owned the ring title so how would he want his belt back. Sure he fought for it a few weeks ago for the first time, but he was beaten rather easily by Pascal. Unless you are talkign about the wbc belt, but I suspect at this point Hopkins will vacate it and keep the ring title like he did when he fought Tarver.

[THE REED]

I'll take The Ring's ratings over the WBC, WBO, WBA's ratings anyday. John Duddy #2 MW and ****, fuuck that noise.

Bhop is a goddamn legend. Top 10 ratings emeritus.

The last ranked LHW Bhop beat was 4 years ago.

[ИATAS]

on top of that, who the hell is in the LH division? Fighting Calzaghe and Pavlik are better than fighting say, Daniel Judah or Yusaf Mack. Seriously you have to take that into consideration breh.

[THE REED]

on top of that, who the hell is in the LH division? Fighting Calzaghe and Pavlik are better than fighting say, Daniel Judah or Yusaf Mack. Seriously you have to take that into consideration breh.

I'd take ANY top 10 ranked LHW.

Diaconu > Ornelas

Glen Johnson rematch > Roy Jones

I won't hate on the Pavlik fight... but he still wasn't a ranked LHW... GOOD win... not GREAT.

[juandabomb]

Well they should put Cloud vs Shemunov as the opener,at least it would be interesting than the main event....Cloud wins by KO

[THE REED]

Dawson wont be the number one contender, he will ahve to beat pascal to get it. If Hopkisn wins Pascal will probably drop to number one lhw, also Dawson never owned the ring title so how would he want his belt back. Sure he fought for it a few weeks ago for the first time, but he was beaten rather easily by Pascal. Unless you are talkign about the wbc belt, but I suspect at this point Hopkins will vacate it and keep the ring title like he did when he fought Tarver.

If Hop moves to HW... then he can do W.E he wants.

But if he stays in the game, and stays at LHW... he needs to fight Dawson or Pascal rematch... or Cloud.

Dont fight 3 more Rico Suave's.

[ИATAS]

I'd take ANY top 10 ranked LHW.

Diaconu > Ornelas

Glen Johnson rematch > Roy Jones

I won't hate on the Pavlik fight... but he still wasn't a ranked LHW... GOOD win... not GREAT.

You look at the LHW division and you tell me your top 10 then reed. Cuz I just don't see any list that could possibly exclude bhop from the top 10. Ok, I guess I can see if you're argueing he shouldn't be #4. Maybe you think Diaconu is better than hopkins. again I don't even know really what we're arguing about here. We're cool for pascal vs hopkins right? is this simply about where hopkins should be ranked?

[street bully]

If Hop moves to HW... then he can do W.E he wants.

But if he stays in the game, and stays at LHW... he needs to fight Dawson or Pascal rematch... or Cloud.

Dont fight 3 more Rico Suave's.

Right, because before Ornelas what was the last fight Hopkisn fought against a no hoper?