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  • jack_the_rippuh
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    #11
    Juan Manuel Marquez is raw...no ifs ands or buts about that. Anyone have a problem with me saying that, give me good karma.

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    • Sir_Jose
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      #12
      Originally posted by oldgringo
      Seriously, Marquez has brutally KOed two great bantams and has pretty much KOed every other guy whos stepped to him. Yet he doesn't get the recognition of his older boring ass brother who's is best known for drawing with Pacquiao and being smoked by Freddie Norwood or whoever that was back in the day. I mean come on now people...

      That Norwood fight was very contraversial pretty much everyone though Marquez won it.

      I agree on Rafeal though. The thing that really made Rafeal look great was Mark Johnson. He destroyes Johnson and everyone said Johnson was washed up but only a few months later Johnson came back and derailed Fernando Montiel showing that he wasn't washed and still world class.

      Dont forget about 2 wins over former champion Maurico Pastrana aswell.

      Herberto Ruiz was tough as nails and was coming off wins over Claranece Vinson and Chapo Vargas and Rafeal destroyed him with the most wicked uppercut you'll ever see..

      I saw him fight Pete Frissina here in Phoenix. After the fight everyone was talking about how could they let such a mismatch happen, but Frissina was rated in the top 10 by Ring, ********* and everyother boxing magazine and web site on the planet. The only reason people looked at it as a mismatch was because how much better Marquez showed he was in the fight blowing him out in 2 like he was nothing.

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      • Tha_Greatest
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        #13
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Seriously, Marquez has brutally KOed two great bantams and has pretty much KOed every other guy whos stepped to him. Yet he doesn't get the recognition of his older boring ass brother who's is best known for drawing with Pacquiao and being smoked by Freddie Norwood or whoever that was back in the day. I mean come on now people...
        Take it it from me, a poster who post as J.M Marquez, Rafaels a better, far better figher than his older brother J.M.Marquez. Rafael destroys everybody he fights

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        • JUYJUY
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          #14
          KOTV also had Tszyu as #1 lb4lb.

          It's hilarious how many people agreed with me Pre-Hatton that Tszyu was #1 lb4lb best, yet Post-Hatton Tszyu's a bum

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          • Tha_Greatest
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            #15
            Originally posted by EastCoastBoxing
            1. Floyd Mayweather 34-0 (23 KO's)
            After Making Arturo Gatti look like a "C" fighter, Pretty Boy is the King of the Boxing World right now!

            2. Ronald Wright 49-3 (25 KO's)
            Winky's Dominance of Tito Trinidad, coupled with Bernard Hopkins loss to Jermain Taylor vaults him to the #2 spot.

            3. Bernard Hopkins 46-4-1 (32 KO's)
            Even with his loss to Taylor, given the man has only lost one fight in 12 years, still keeps him close to the top.

            4. Marco Antonio Barrara 60-4 (42 KO's)
            Big wins in 2004 over Erik Morales and Paulie Ayala get him back to the top of the division, but Morales and Manny Pacquiao are looming closely!

            5. Erik Morales 48-2 (34 KO's)
            Coming off a huge win over Pacquiao and a loss to Barrera, he's slated to face Zahir Rahim in LA on September 10.

            6. Manny Pacquiao 39-3-2 (31 KO's)
            Faces Hector Velazquez on September 10 in LA, look for him, Morales and Barrera to be this generation's Leonard, Hagler, and Hearns with mega fights against each other.

            7. Jermain Taylor 24-0 (17 KO's)
            Big win over Bernard Hopkins vaults him into the top 10, but he'll have to win the rematch to get close to the top!

            8. Diego Corrales 40-2 (33 KO's)
            Vicory over Jose Luis Castillo will go down as one of the best fights of all time and the rematch could be even better!

            9. Juan Manual Marquez 44-2-1 (33 KO's)
            Very steady fighter and he's the King of the 126 lb class right now!

            10. Zab Judah 34-2 (25 KO's)
            Has a long awaited bout with Sharmba Mitchell on the horizon and could face the likes of Floyd Mayweather or Shane Mosley in the future.
            Floyd has to move down in the P4P


            Gatti is at best a C fighter, He sucks badly, he has no great wins, his biggest win was like 10 years ago vs Rafael Ruelas, He has losses to stiffs like Ivan Robinson(twice)', Mickey Ward , Angel Manfredy, and he has never beaten a true top contender, he has fought 2 good fighters in Oscar and Mayweather and they both tortured him to death,

            Mayweather should step up and fight a true upper weight opponent like he said he would when he stepped up in weight ,But he fights the Tony Bruseles, DeMarcus Corleys, Phillip N'Dous and his big fight is overated Arturo Gatti,

            He beat 2 top notch opponents in J.L Castillo and Chico Corrales and a long long time ago but one fight vs Castillo was a real questionable win, When he was at 130 pounds , he could have fought,Barrera,Morales ,Freitas,Casamayor,Pacquiao, J.M.Marquez, but he claimed he cleared out the division and went up in weight, Morales was calling out Mayweather alot when they were in same division weight and Morales does fight everyone but Mayweather did not go for the fight. He was always calling out Gatti, nobody but Gatti

            Mayweather is easily top 5 but he needs to step up in level of opponents cause he hasnt fought anyone for a long while, I would put him at best #4 but win a big fight May and ill move you up in P4P ranks

            You got a Very good P4P list, the only ARGUABLE dispute i had was Floyd

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            • jack_the_rippuh
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              #16
              Originally posted by JUYJUY
              KOTV also had Tszyu as #1 lb4lb.

              It's hilarious how many people agreed with me Pre-Hatton that Tszyu was #1 lb4lb best, yet Post-Hatton Tszyu's a bum
              Yeah that's what happens when people aren't true fans.
              After the Wright/Trinidad fight there was a Trinidad fan who posts on this board (I won't mention any names) who said he's not sure if he still wants to call himself a Tito fan after that one-sided affair.


              Ahh...what the hell...it was IWATCHBOXING (This is where I'd enter a smiley if I did that kind of thing.)

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              • jack_the_rippuh
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                #17
                Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
                Floyd has to move down in the P4P


                Gatti is at best a C fighter, He sucks badly, he has no great wins, his biggest win was like 10 years ago vs Rafael Ruelas, He has losses to stiffs like Ivan Robinson(twice)', Mickey Ward , Angel Manfredy, and he has never beaten a true top contender, he has fought 2 good fighters in Oscar and Mayweather and they both tortured him to death,

                Mayweather should step up and fight a true upper weight opponent like he said he would when he stepped up in weight ,But he fights the Tony Bruseles, DeMarcus Corleys, Phillip N'Dous and his big fight is overated Arturo Gatti,

                He beat 2 top notch opponents in J.L Castillo and Chico Corrales and a long long time ago but one fight vs Castillo was a real questionable win, When he was at 130 pounds , he could have fought,Barrera,Morales ,Freitas,Casamayor,Pacquiao, J.M.Marquez, but he claimed he cleared out the division and went up in weight, Morales was calling out Mayweather alot when they were in same division weight and Morales does fight everyone but Mayweather did not go for the fight. He was always calling out Gatti, nobody but Gatti

                Mayweather is easily top 5 but he needs to step up in level of opponents cause he hasnt fought anyone for a long while, I would put him at best #4 but win a big fight May and ill move you up in P4P ranks

                You got a Very good P4P list, the only ARGUABLE dispute i had was Floyd
                Before Roy Jones Jr. faced John Ruiz, did you have him at p4p #1?

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                • IwatchBoxing
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by finesse
                  Before Roy Jones Jr. faced John Ruiz, did you have him at p4p #1?
                  I belive Trinidad was.

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                  • Tha_Greatest
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by finesse
                    Before Roy Jones Jr. faced John Ruiz, did you have him at p4p #1?
                    Yes i did, I hated Roy Jones and i still do but fact was he massacred everyone he fought he even beat Toney, Hopkins(who also was a longtime #1 P4P and many very good opposition with not so great names but good fighters in Harding,Kelly,Gonzalez,Griffin but I still hate the man in Jones but i gave him his credit.

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                    • jack_the_rippuh
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by J.M.Marquez
                      Yes i did, I hated Roy Jones and i still do but fact was he massacred everyone he fought he even beat Toney, Hopkins(who also was a longtime #1 P4P and many very good opposition with not so great names but good fighters in Harding,Kelly,Gonzalez,Griffin but I still hate the man in Jones but i gave him his credit.
                      Floyd Mayweather jr. beat alot of great fighters too.
                      Look how many of them became World Champions after getting beat by him.

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