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  • Dave Rado
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    The BBC are nuthuggers - official

    Tuesday morning's edition of Today (the BBC's flagship news and current affairs radio programme), contained the following report:

    Newsreader: "An all-British world heavyweight title fight between champion David Haye and challenger Audley Harrison in November is a good deal closer this morning. But as usual, boxing politics is at the heart of the story. Mike Costello can explain.

    Mike Costello: "Harrison's camp say terms have been agreed and it's now up to Haye to sign the contract. If it comes off it'll be the biggest heavyweight showdown in this country since Lennox Lewis beat Frank Bruno in Cardiff in 1993. The ongoing ill feeling between Haye and the Klitschko brothers, Wladamir and Vitali, has opened the door for 38 year old Harrison. Ten years after winning Olympic gold, he's lost four times in his 31 pro fights, but he resurrected his career last April by winning the European title with a stunning last round knock-out of another Britain, Michael Sprott.

    When even the BBC, whom one expects to show some scepticism and objective journalism, jump on the Haye nuthugging bandwagon, I despair about British boxing journalism.

    I have emailed Mike Costello as follows:

    To: mike.costello@bbc.co.uk

    One expects the BBC to be objective, and not to buy into media hype; so I was very disappointed to hear your report on Tuesday's Today programme.

    The reason that Haye is not fighting a Klitschko next is NOT "boxing politics", as the newsreader stated, nor is it "the ongoing ill feeling between Haye and the Klitschko brothers", as you claimed. It is simply - and quite obviously to anyone who really follows boxing and is being objective - because Haye doesn't want to fight them yet.

    Last April, Wladimir Klitschko told Haye in a youtube video to put up and make the fight happen, or to shut up. Klitschko then got special dispensation from the IBF to fight a unification with Haye rather than his mandatory, Povetkin. In the subsequent negotiations, Klitschko - to most people's astonishment, given Haye's rather patchy resumé at Heavyweight - offered Haye exactly the terms that Haye had said he wanted - a 50/50 purse split, and no rematch clauses. Haye turned the offer down, claiming (via his manager) that he needed more time to negotiate and that Klitschko should go ahead and fight Povetkin instead.

    Now Haye is apparently trying to make a fight, not with a highly ranked opponent who could test him and help prepare him for a forthcoming fight with one of the Klitschkos, but with a man ranked 42 in the world by boxrec, and who is not ranked anywhere near the top 10 by any independent rankings organisation.

    You mentioned that Harrison has already lost four times, but you didn't mention that all four losses were to journeymen, boxers generally ranked well outside the top 20 in world terms. Sprott himself is a journeyman, and although he got a big knock-out in that fight, you didn't mention that the journeyman Sprott had won every round prior to the knock-out. Harrison's opponents have to stay still and stick their chins out for him to get an knock-out against them; and no world class fighter will ever be so obliging.

    Haye is clearly trying to make a bit of money against zero-risk opponents before fighting one of the Klitschkos, presumably because he thinks he's likely to lose. Because of this, and because of his extraordinary lazy fight schedule (averaging just two fights a year since moving up to Heavyweight), he's lost the support of all objective boxing fans.

    For you to claim that it is boxing politics or bad feeling that is preventing Haye from fighting the Klitschkos, when all hard core boxing fans know it's simply that Haye is trying to cash out for as long as possible before risking defeat, is to mislead the public to a deplorable extent.

    If you turn out to be right that it will be a huge fight, it will only because of misleading media hype from journalists like yourself. But to compare it with the Lewis-Bruno fight, as you did in your report, is quite ridiculous, and again was seriously misleading to the public. Bruno was not a great fighter, but he was a very good one, and was close to being world class. He had already fought for a world title by the time he faced Lewis; and all of his three losses had been to world class fighters. The Lewis-Bruno fight garnered world wide interest. By contrast, Harrison has never been and never will be considered to be even close to world class; his losses have all been to journeymen; and outside the UK, no one will have the slightest interest in this fight.

    Finally, your report didn't display any of the journalistic scepticism I would expect from the BBC about Harrison's claims that the fight contract is done and dusted and is just awaiting Haye's signature. Haye denies this, so this story seems rather premature.

    Dave Rado

    I'll post back if I get a reply ...
    Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-24-2010, 07:49 PM.
  • IronDanHamza
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    #2
    British boxing journalism has been poor and biased for as long as i remember, how this fight can be justified is beyond me.

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    • Ragnar Lothbrok
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      #3
      have you read jeff powell's article claiming that haye is fighting harrison while the klitsckho's are hiding from haye?

      british media bias & sensationalism is worse than the american media, by a country mile.....


      yet you are the same guy that used uk based articles in defending joe calzaghe not coming to america sooner to fight a prime roy jones jr. & bernard hopkins.

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      • Dave Rado
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        Originally posted by Willie Swindler
        have you read jeff powell's article claiming that haye is fighting harrison while the klitsckho's are hiding from haye?

        british media bias & sensationalism is worse than the american media, by a country mile.....

        yet you are the same guy that used uk based articles in defending joe calzaghe not coming to america sooner to fight a prime roy jones jr. & bernard hopkins.
        The Daily Mail, which Powell works for, is a down-market tabloid with as much loyalty to the truth as a Joseph Goebbels. It is ridiculous to compare it with The Guardian, which is a broadsheet of similar international standing to the New York Times or the Washington Post; or with the BBC, which has an international reputation for objective and impartial reporting, and is consistently voted the world's most trusted news channel. Indeed it is precisely because of the BBC's reputation for journalistic integrity that I emailed Mike Costello about his failure to show the objectivity which the BBC is supposed to provide.

        That said, the Guardian and BBC do show bias in opinion pieces, but those are clearly labelled as such, and that's very different from showing bias in a straight news reports, where they generally are very objective, this biased report from Mike Costello being a sad exception.

        The reports linked to in my sig are straight news reports, or in some cases, straight interviews; they are not opinion pieces.

        In any case, you should have mentioned that the report you refer to by Powell was written just after the Ruiz fight, well before Wlad offered Haye 50/50. Even Powell hasn't had the cheek to claim that the Klitschkos are running from Haye since then.
        Last edited by Dave Rado; 08-24-2010, 08:22 PM.

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        • Kaspa9t9
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          #5
          As long as the BBC keep making Top Gear and more epic series like Planet Earth, they can say whatever the hell they like

          PS: Would suck if this fight did get made

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          • Dirk Diggler UK
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            #6
            What did you expect? This fight will be hyped to the max by the media

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            • Mushroom
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              #7
              Wasn't all that 'nuthugging' and what would you expect? The BBC don't care for boxing all that much..........

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              • Dave Rado
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                #8
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                What did you expect? This fight will be hyped to the max by the media
                It looks that way but I don't see what's inevitable about it. It's in Sky's interest to hype the fight, but it's not really in the commercial interests of the rest of the media - and especially not of the BBC, who stand or fall on their reputation for journalistic integrity.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  It looks that way but I don't see what's inevitable about it. It's in Sky's interest to hype the fight, but it's not really in the commercial interests of the rest of the media - and especially not of the BBC, who stand or fall on their reputation for journalistic integrity.
                  Not in the slightest 99.9% of the British public won't give a monkeys

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                  • starkiller
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                    #10
                    David Haye and his paper-belt.

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