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  • pistol whip
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    #61
    Originally posted by Sombras
    As I remember, Morales was nothing but respect in their first fight. Even in the fighters introductions Larry Merchant says that MAB called EM chicken Tijuana and that EM said the fight was PERSONAL and THAT'S IT.



    Pathetic attempts with no proof over and over again
    Ugh Erik went to Barrera's locker room after the first fight and gave him a medal and told Barrera he won the fight and it was documented by HBO when the did a little short thing on their trilogy. I don't think they were at that point yet.

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    • Sombras
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      #62
      Originally posted by pistol whip
      Actually the first fight was March 19 2005 and he was 28 so no he wasnt just turning 30 and the second fight was 8 months later on January 26th 2006and he had just turned 29 that past September.

      So within an 8 month period he went from the biggest win of his career to past his Prime. Yeah that happens all the time.
      The biggest win of his career? Are you ******? And I know you just boxrecd that because you didn't bring it up earlier this thread but did you not see that after he beat Pacquiao he lost 4 straight fights...even losing to Zahir Raheem and David Diaz? LOL at you saying he wasn't past prime.


      And it just recently became the biggest win of his career....because Pacquiao became that great but back then it wasn't.



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      • pistol whip
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        #63
        Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
        yeah that's what makes morales different.

        barrera was always nice guy. never dirty or talk crap.

        marquez never was sour g****s. ever.

        pacquiao never made excuses for when he lost.


        Pac alwayse made excuses Im not denying that at all hes a grade a crybaby thats for sure.

        Barrera may have been an ******* at times but he also stood up for his countrymen when he fought Nazeem Hamed. In a previous fight hamed body slammed a Mexican fighter to the ground. Barrera didn't like that and was very clear he was gonna whip Hameds ass for that.

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          #64
          Originally posted by pistol whip
          Actually the first fight was March 19 2005 and he was 28 so no he wasnt just turning 30 and the second fight was 8 months later on January 26th 2006and he had just turned 29 that past September.

          So within an 8 month period he went from the biggest win of his career to past his Prime. Yeah that happens all the time.
          you can have a great win when past your prime , dummy.

          fighters do it all the time.

          ali-foreman , duran-barkley , foreman-moorer , holyfield-tyson are recent examples.

          just look at jmm. his best win casamayor was at 135 and 135 wasn't his best weight and hasn't looked the same since after pacquiao 2 and since moving up.

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          • Heeb
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            #65
            A little too late for this fight. Prime for prime...Erik>Marquez and I'm a Marquez fan.

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            • BillyBoxing
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              #66
              Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
              man , i use to hate morales too.

              i was a barrera guy (you had to take sides , that's what made that rivalry great)

              that said , i keep things real.

              only an idiot would think morales wasn't past his best by the time he fought pacquiao.

              as a barrera fan , the reason i think barrera won more convincingly in the 3rd fight over morales , was because morales was past it.
              Left Hook,
              you just a mex nuthugger.


              I can't stand mofo like you who can only answer "you don't know ****" but they can't bring some facts or proofs...

              Morales was past it??
              WHY???
              I want a proof Mister Left Hook,I want some facts,based on what he entered past his prime in the ring??
              What previous performances?

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              • BillyBoxing
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                #67
                Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
                you can have a great win when past your prime , dummy.

                fighters do it all the time.

                ali-foreman , duran-barkley , foreman-moorer , holyfield-tyson are recent examples.

                just look at jmm. his best win casamayor was at 135 and 135 wasn't his best weight and hasn't looked the same since after pacquiao 2 and since moving up.
                Or like Mosley against the cheating fraud you have in your avatar Left...

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                  Or like Mosley against the cheating fraud you have in your avatar Left...
                  that fraud was top 10 at 147 for almost a decade.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                    Left Hook,
                    you just a mex nuthugger.


                    I can't stand mofo like you who can only answer "you don't know ****" but they can't bring some facts or proofs...

                    Morales was past it??
                    WHY???
                    I want a proof Mister Left Hook,I want some facts,based on what he entered past his prime in the ring??
                    What previous performances?


                    1. i'm not even mexican

                    2. i'm one of the biggest ******* here.

                    3. i say "you don't know ****" because you don't.

                    all you have to look at is compare his previous fight (morales-barrera 3) and watch the 1st 2 morales-barrera fights.

                    all you have to do is have eyes and you can tell morales was no longer in his prime.

                    the pacquiao was the last great fight of morales' career. just because he won doesn't mean he was still at his best.

                    i love pacquiao but he lost to a past prime morales. end of.

                    still a great win but it is what it is.

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                    • bojangles1987
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by BillyBoxing
                      Left Hook,
                      you just a mex nuthugger.


                      I can't stand mofo like you who can only answer "you don't know ****" but they can't bring some facts or proofs...

                      Morales was past it??
                      WHY???
                      I want a proof Mister Left Hook,I want some facts,based on what he entered past his prime in the ring??
                      What previous performances?
                      Are you serious? You REALLY need an explanation as to how Morales was past it when he beat Pacquiao? No one is saying he was shot, but he was clearly not prime. Watch Morales fights in the late 90s through the early 2000s, and then tell me that Morales in 2005 was that same guy. Come on.

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