Doug Fischer: "Wlad Klitschko would've been dangerous to ANYBODY in history even Ali"

[Gorilla Dogs]

he could have beaten every single one of em

EXCEPT MUHAMMAD ALI



Ali defied odds to beat the great george foreman in his prime

[Wlad Klitschko]

Would the nine of you who think Wladimir Klitschko beats Rid**** Bowe please make yourselves known? That would be effin' awesome.

I think Wlad easily takes Bowe. Bowe struggled with all the really good fighters he fought and the best fighters out there he avoided. Golata took Bowe to school. Are you going to start talking about mythical primes? If so, then Wlad's prime started in 2006, so you cant count any fights before then.

Here is how nostalgic boxing fans work:

Nostalgic Boxing Fan: Man, ****, wlad sucks, he lost to Purrity, Brewster and Sanders. What a joke.

Realist: Ali lost to Berbick, and a 6 win Spinks, he also won very clsoe decisions that many said he lost to guys like Shavers and Young, oh and he struggled with bums like Wepner

Nostalgic boxing fan: You cant count those, he was past prime

Realist: in his first fights with Norton and Frazier, he was exposed. While the decision in Norton 2 and 3 are questionable, there is no doubt that Frazier was past it for Frazier 2 and 3

nostalgic fans: **** man, you cant count stuff after he had a layoff of ALMOST 3 YEARS!!!

Realist: How about ebfore the layoff where he ducked a rematch with Jones, he was knocked down and forced to use smelling salts to continue with a 185 lbs henry cooper, and his biggest wins were in rigged fights (although Liston vs. Ali 1 was evenw hen Liston pulled out) and against a guy who was shot. Literally.

Nostalgic fan: man that was before Ali's prime man, you cant count stuff like that.

[Pirao]

Would the nine of you who think Wladimir Klitschko beats Rid**** Bowe please make yourselves known? That would be effin' awesome.

Why? What are you going to do?

Bowe who got whooped by Golota? Holyfield that got whooped by a LHW? Lol, Wlad could not beat those guys? I know american HWs get a free pass for their losses, but you're ridiculous.

[Wlad Klitschko]

Wlad is three inches taller than Ali, and two inches taller than Holmes, but he has shorter reach then both. Reach would not be an issue at all for either, Ali and Holmes had long arms and reach.

Also Holems probably has the best jab in HW history. You can't out jab a jabber.

Like I said people look at the old Ali from the 70s, who was mor eor less shot, and still dominating ATG heavyweights, and say oh he was hittable. He had much slower legs then and couldn't dance. You think the younger ALi wou would almost never lose a round would pull a rope a dope on Foreman? Hell no he would make the 15 rounds look like the first round of the fight, his workrate accuracy, and precision were also second to none. Almost all of Ali's opponents would be cut against him.

I dont get it, Wlad's a jabber, but HOlmes can out jab him? But Wlad cant outjab holmes because Holmes is a jabber?

Wlad's jab is so much more powerful than Holmes's

[Tyson.]

[Forza]

lol wlad has been K.O'd by so many bums

[T.Horton]

Why? What are you going to do?

Bowe who got whooped by Golota? Holyfield that got whooped by a LHW? Lol, Wlad could not beat those guys? I know american HWs get a free pass for their losses, but you're ridiculous.

wow. you sure are silly. Bowe got whooped by Golota - absolutely, but have you ever watched either of the post fight interviews? He was already starting to show signs of being punch drunk. Anyway, it's a little tough to take anybody seriously who uses that triangle theory.

And when did Holyfield get whooped by a lightheavy? He lost a close one to Moorer who was a bonafide heavy at the time who, I believe but I may be wrong, came in on fight night heavier than Evander.

By the way, I am not American.

[Gorilla Dogs]

sanders who? ali was too fast and too skilled. ali beat a prime foreman when he was past it

[T.Horton]

This was a wonderful fight that had me in stitches.

[street bully]

I dont get it, Wlad's a jabber, but HOlmes can out jab him? But Wlad cant outjab holmes because Holmes is a jabber?

Wlad's jab is so much more powerful than Holmes's

Holmes' jab is regarded as one of if not the best in the history of the HW division. He also had reach to surpass Wlad man, which would lower Wlads chances in an outside game, since Holmes was faster, and one of the most accurate pure boxers ever to step foot in a ring.